Quote: @mblack said:
So now Assange is/was a friend of Steele and out to get Trump too? By the way Mueller did not clear Trump. You really are something. For a while I thought you were just trying to get people worked up but it's sad it's clear you really believe these lies and "alternative facts".
Quote: @mblack said:
So now Assange is/was a friend of Steele and out to get Trump too? By the way Mueller did not clear Trump. You really are something. For a while I thought you were just trying to get people worked up but it's sad it's clear you really believe these lies and "alternative facts".
Assange has NEVER been pro republican or democrat. He’s always been about burning down .gov at all costs.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...ukraine-a/
These conspiracies have roots in some fringe beliefs that Ukraine coordinated the DNC hack to frame the Russians. That conspiracy grew on internet sites like Reddit and 4chan, and has slowly trickled into the mainstream over the past few years. It’s been amplified by conservative and Russian media outlets, social media and even the criminal trial of Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser.
But the theory is bunk. The U.S. intelligence community has reaffirmed the role that Russia played in meddling in the 2016 election, as outlined in former special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s report — particularly when it came to the DNC hack.
You are literally a victim of Russian propaganda. The shit you're claiming is off the rails, tinfoil hat, completwly debunked utter fucking NONSENSE that you are so desperate to believe you should be embarrassed.
What is politifact doing here? They're obviously dealing in crafting opinion, and not fact-checking.
(By the way, politifact is borne of the Poynter Institute. Who is Poynter? Poynter was a prominent Democrat from Indiana who move to Florida & bought the St Pete Times nee Tampa Times.
Politifact is "lean left" by allsides. PolitiFact media bias rating is Lean Left.)
"You are literally a victim of Russian propaganda. The shit you're claiming is off the rails, tinfoil hat, completwly debunked utter fucking NONSENSE that you are so desperate to believe you should be embarrassed."
SFVF, you've been shown this quote, over & over, and have not commented, yet. (I've watched)
And it's from politico, Politico media bias rating is Lean Left. you wouldn't characterize politico as tin=foil, off the rails debunked utter nonsense, would you?
Yet, here it is. Again.
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfireKiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST
Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
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Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...ukraine-a/
These conspiracies have roots in some fringe beliefs that Ukraine coordinated the DNC hack to frame the Russians. That conspiracy grew on internet sites like Reddit and 4chan, and has slowly trickled into the mainstream over the past few years. It’s been amplified by conservative and Russian media outlets, social media and even the criminal trial of Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser.
But the theory is bunk. The U.S. intelligence community has reaffirmed the role that Russia played in meddling in the 2016 election, as outlined in former special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s report — particularly when it came to the DNC hack.
You are literally a victim of Russian propaganda. The shit you're claiming is off the rails, tinfoil hat, completwly debunked utter fucking NONSENSE that you are so desperate to believe you should be embarrassed.
What is politifact doing here? They're obviously dealing in crafting opinion, and not fact-checking.
(By the way, politifact is borne of the Poynter Institute. Who is Poynter? Poynter was a prominent Democrat from Indiana who move to Florida & bought the St Pete Times nee Tampa Times.
Politifact is "lean left" by allsides. PolitiFact media bias rating is Lean Left.)
"You are literally a victim of Russian propaganda. The shit you're claiming is off the rails, tinfoil hat, completwly debunked utter fucking NONSENSE that you are so desperate to believe you should be embarrassed."
SFVF, you've been shown this quote, over & over, and have not commented, yet. (I've watched)
And it's from politico, Politico media bias rating is Lean Left. you wouldn't characterize politico as tin=foil, off the rails debunked utter nonsense, would you?
Yet, here it is. Again.
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfireKiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST
Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
link
Because your weak attempts to discredit the sources rather than the actual info is a joke. Any number of sources confirms what's in the Mueller report I just picked one of dozens. Fiona Hill was spot on in her testimony and assessment of letting GOP try to shift the narrative that Russia didn't interfere and pin it on Ukraine.
You can cry about it all you want but if you believe Mueller's assertion that Trump didn't collude with Russia then you don't get to toss out the facts the Russians interfered with the 2016 election, along with the numerous contacts Trump and his Campaign reached out to them for help ... and it sure as hell was on a scale that far outpaced whatever tidbits you'll find about Ukraine and Dems.
Trying to shift blame away from Russia, which is what A1 is doing is completely bonkers. And of course you rushing in to defend him is completely predictable.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
Any number of sources confirms what's in the Mueller report I just picked one of dozens.
Is this like when 17 IC organizations guaranteed Trump= Russia?
But later, that was admitted a fraud?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/pageo...ogin-email&login=email
Corrections: June 29, 2017June 29, 2017
INTERNATIONAL
A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.
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I admit about 13 Russians strove to affect the 2016 election. They've been indicted.
I also admit, that not one American negatively affected the 2016 election.
Rod told me so.
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
Any number of sources confirms what's in the Mueller report I just picked one of dozens.
I also admit, that not one American negatively affected the 2016 election.
Thats not true. The democrats nominated the hildabeast. That was a significant negative towards the race and lead to The second most unelectable person in America getting elected.
I will say I am impressed with how some are able to keep so many moving parts to their individual versions of the truth straight... this goes both for sides...there are so many names that shift from good to bad to back to good .... reading through these threads is like trying to keep up with a soap opera.
That is an honest compliment to those neck deep in here. Not taking a shot at anybody
.. I am truly impressed.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I will say I am impressed with how some are able to keep so many moving parts to their individual versions of the truth straight... this goes both for sides...there are so many names that shift from good to bad to back to good .... reading through these threads is like trying to keep up with a soap opera.
That is an honest compliment to those neck deep in here. Not taking a shot at anybody
.. I am truly impressed.
I am impressed as well. the energy used to constantly restate the same basic things is just something I dont have the energy for but I am impressed others do.
It is easy if you know the truth.
Hats off to them for trying to keep their fake news crap straight. I don’t know how they do it.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
It is easy if you know the truth.
Hats off to them for trying to keep their fake news crap straight. I don’t know how they do it.
Same way you do the same...neither of you think yours is crap.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
It is easy if you know the truth.
Hats off to them for trying to keep their fake news crap straight. I don’t know how they do it.
Same way you do the same...neither of you think yours is crap.
Not really. There are documents that prove what I say. They rely on unsubstantiated talking points.
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