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Sondland bombshell: Trump, Giuliani directed the quid pro quo
#31
Quote: @greediron said:
Hypocrisy has a liberal bias.
Consider the black face scandalsMs. Kelly was terminated because she asked the question if blackface as a costume was offensive.Joy Behr celebrated her blackface costume on TVNorthham still governsTrudeau still governs
Trump has impeachment hearing over talking to Ukrainian president about biden investigation.Biden bragged about quid pro quo extortion to protect his son and still is a front runner for the democrats.
OP comes bragging about CNN false news headlines
Goes silent when cross examinations reveal the guy assumed on his own accord despite being told no to QPQ.

And yet Al Franken voluntarily resigned from the Senate for being accused of grabbing a few asses, while our President has bragged about grabbing women from the front without consent, has paid off porn stars and models that he had affairs with, lied about it (shocker), and is still in office.

The Biden thing is simply not true and has been shown to be untrue again and again.  He has been cleared of any wrongdoing and now it's Trump's turn to be investigated.

But again, my post was about Trump being a complete piece of shit, surrounding himself with pieces of shit, and decorated career civil servants being thrown under the bus and run over by those who just are in complete denial about it.
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#32
Quote: @SFVikingFan said:
@greediron said:
Hypocrisy has a liberal bias.
Consider the black face scandalsMs. Kelly was terminated because she asked the question if blackface as a costume was offensive.Joy Behr celebrated her blackface costume on TVNorthham still governsTrudeau still governs
Trump has impeachment hearing over talking to Ukrainian president about biden investigation.Biden bragged about quid pro quo extortion to protect his son and still is a front runner for the democrats.
OP comes bragging about CNN false news headlines
Goes silent when cross examinations reveal the guy assumed on his own accord despite being told no to QPQ.

And yet Al Franken voluntarily resigned from the Senate for being accused of grabbing a few asses, while our President has bragged about grabbing women from the front without consent, has paid off porn stars and models that he had affairs with, lied about it (shocker), and is still in office.

The Biden thing is simply not true and has been shown to be untrue again and again.  He has been cleared of any wrongdoing and now it's Trump's turn to be investigated.

But again, my post was about Trump being a complete piece of shit, surrounding himself with pieces of shit, and decorated career civil servants being thrown under the bus and run over by those who just are in complete denial about it.
And Clinton and trump are tied to Epstien and Clinton is an accused rapist.  They are all pieces of shit IMO.  But this latest charade is just politics. Trump did nothing wrong on the Ukraine front.  It is time to admit that.  Just like he was cleared in the russia garbage. 

If you want to list all the POS in congress as well, lets start.  Wife beaters, Rapists, on down to common criminals.  At least that democrat lady resigned after she abused her power over a staffer.  Biden is a POS as well and I don't see that he has been cleared of any wrongdoing.  Biden continually fondles women and children. 

If you want to compare which team has more POS, then lets get started.  But Trump's phone call to Ukraine doesn't rise to high crimes and therefore isn't impeachable.
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#33
Quote: @greediron said:
@SFVikingFan said:
@greediron said:
Hypocrisy has a liberal bias.
Consider the black face scandalsMs. Kelly was terminated because she asked the question if blackface as a costume was offensive.Joy Behr celebrated her blackface costume on TVNorthham still governsTrudeau still governs
Trump has impeachment hearing over talking to Ukrainian president about biden investigation.Biden bragged about quid pro quo extortion to protect his son and still is a front runner for the democrats.
OP comes bragging about CNN false news headlines
Goes silent when cross examinations reveal the guy assumed on his own accord despite being told no to QPQ.

And yet Al Franken voluntarily resigned from the Senate for being accused of grabbing a few asses, while our President has bragged about grabbing women from the front without consent, has paid off porn stars and models that he had affairs with, lied about it (shocker), and is still in office.

The Biden thing is simply not true and has been shown to be untrue again and again.  He has been cleared of any wrongdoing and now it's Trump's turn to be investigated.

But again, my post was about Trump being a complete piece of shit, surrounding himself with pieces of shit, and decorated career civil servants being thrown under the bus and run over by those who just are in complete denial about it.
And Clinton and trump are tied to Epstien and Clinton is an accused rapist.  They are all pieces of shit IMO.  But this latest charade is just politics. Trump did nothing wrong on the Ukraine front.  It is time to admit that.  Just like he was cleared in the russia garbage. 

If you want to list all the POS in congress as well, lets start.  Wife beaters, Rapists, on down to common criminals.  At least that democrat lady resigned after she abused her power over a staffer.  Biden is a POS as well and I don't see that he has been cleared of any wrongdoing.  Biden continually fondles women and children. 

If you want to compare which team has more POS, then lets get started.  But Trump's phone call to Ukraine doesn't rise to high crimes and therefore isn't impeachable.
And to my point, the hypocrisy meter is off the charts.  The media helps drive the GOP people out over the same crimes it overlooks on the democrat side.  Just look at Virginia.  What a hypocritical ball of crap that leadership is.  Blackface, sexual assault, money scandals.  But they keep on governing.
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#34
LOL @ Biden being cleared. 

Obama would not let the DOJ, FBI and State Department from receiving evidence.  

Nobody cleared Biden. 
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#35
Quote: @savannahskol said:

@SFVikeFan said:
If Trump wanted the Bidens investigated for corruption there were official, legal channels to use and not the President's personal attorney dictating foreign policy. 
Why would Trump want to trust these folks?  
The 2016/2017 Ukrainians that were pro-Hillary?  According to left- Politico https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

And anyway, there is nothing illegal about a POTUS having a foreign emissary, conduct his affairs.   (Cuz surely you're talking 'Ghouliani', yes?) 

Have you heard of FDR's Harry Hopkins?  If not....here >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hopkins
Or Obama's Jesse Jackson?  If not....here > https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/j...ers-081475

POTUSES OFTEN USE PERSONAL EMMISSARIES to affect foreign policy.
The practice is neither novel nor illegal.  Except, of course, if you're name is Trump.  Right?   
Yes, why would Trump want to trust his own DOJ, his own AG?

LMAO 

You're fruit loops if you think it's okay to have Giuliani dictating secret foreign policy.

Only reason you do that is to avoid opening official channels that would be monitored, and if he gets caught he can claim attorney-client privilege. 


Shady as fuck, you think it's normal.  He's already under federal investigation and 2 of his partners just got frog marched to prison on felonies. 

Go sell crazy elsewhere. 
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#36
Quote: @greediron said:
Hypocrisy has a liberal bias.
Consider the black face scandalsMs. Kelly was terminated because she asked the question if blackface as a costume was offensive.Joy Behr celebrated her blackface costume on TVNorthham still governsTrudeau still governs
Trump has impeachment hearing over talking to Ukrainian president about biden investigation.Biden bragged about quid pro quo extortion to protect his son and still is a front runner for the democrats.
OP comes bragging about CNN false news headlines
Goes silent when cross examinations reveal the guy assumed on his own accord despite being told no to QPQ.

Some of us have jobs.

The fact you think Biden wanted to protect his son is hilarious. 

Biden wanted Prosecutor Shokin fired for NOT investigating Burisma Holdings and others.  

Kind of blows your conspiracy theory out of the water ...


Oh and A1, this false narrative that the Ukraine is to blame for the 2016 election interference that the GOP is pushing is literally Russian fucking propaganda.  You are so easily duped it's comical. 
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#37
Apparently you aren’t aware the Ukrainians wanted to turner over massive info about corruption with Bidens and other dems - but Obama admin refused to take it and took away visas of guys wanting to bring it to US officials.  

It will be fun to watch. 

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#38
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
Apparently you aren’t aware the Ukrainians wanted to turner over massive info about corruption with Bidens and other dems - but Obama admin refused to take it and took away visas of guys wanting to bring it to US officials.  

It will be fun to watch. 
By all means share your sources ...
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#39
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@SFVikeFan said:
... and everyone knew it - Trump, Pompeo, Mulvaney. 

Get your popcorn,  Republicans are going to need a new excuse after screaming about no quid pro quo last month.


If Trump wanted the Bidens investigated for corruption there were official, legal channels to use and not the President's personal attorney dictating foreign policy. 

What an unmitigated disaster for team Trump, yet I still don't see Senate Republicans doing anything but enabling the trainwreck to continue. 
11:03 first break of the hearings (previously timed for the press, btw)
Yes, there was a "quid pro quo".  For a WH meeting (not aid).  lol  
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...e-meeting/


"Cross examination is the greatest legal engine for the discovery of truth".  
I bet you long for the days of closed-door one-sided hearings with spoon-fed witnesses you hope remember what they said in closed-door hearings, not witnessed by the MSM.  

Shot yer wad, too early there, Counselor Comrade SFVF.  
Later, after your breathless bombshell proclamation: 

Sondman: "No one told me the aid was tied to anything.  I was presuming it was." 



"No quid pro quo, according to Sondland...who was the source to Kent....who was the source to Vindman...yadda, yadda, yadda"










And another witness testifies there was a quid pro quo in place FOR AID:  National Security Council Tim Morrison

So click to see the video testimony if you haven't already shot your own wad from patting yourself on the back:


 https://news.yahoo.com/former-nsc-offici...00166.html

Goldman asked Morrison to share what Sondland said he told Yermak, and Morrison responded: "That the Ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor general make a statement with respect to the investigations as a condition of having the aid lifted."

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#40
LOL Morrison was slapped down on cross examination. 
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