So which is it? Public? Private?

[Mike Olson]

The administration says that private hearings are not ok. Now says that public hearings not ok. This from an administration that claims to be transparent.

From CNN 
1 hr 15 min ago 
Trump: Democrats shouldn’t hold public impeachment hearings 
From CNN's Kevin Liptak 
President Trump said Democrats shouldn’t hold public hearings in the impeachment inquiry. 

Speaking to reporters at the White House before a trip to Atlanta, Trump said the public hearings were a continuation of a “hoax." 

"They shouldn't be having public hearings. This is a hoax. This is just like the Russian witch hunt," Trump said. 
Some background: Democrats announced the first public hearings in the impeachment inquiry will begin next week. Top US diplomat in the Ukraine Bill Taylor, State Department official George Kent and former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch are scheduled to testify. 

The public hearings will be conducted just by the House Intelligence Committee. Under rules passed by the House last week, both Democrats and Republicans will have 45-minute blocks to question witnesses in which staff attorneys can participate. 

Remember: Trump and the Republican party have criticized the impeachment inquiry, which began with closed-door depositions limited to the House committees directly involved in the investigation, for a lack of transparency. The House voted last week to formalize the impeachment inquiry, a resolution that included protocols for the public hearings. 

[Guest]

The silence is deafening

[Guest]

The whole process is a hoax.  It will be exposed as such.  

Certainly secret testimony, where the president is not allowed an attorney or to cross examine witnesses, is a joke.  

Public testimony is necessary.  And due process for the president is required. 

Let’s bring in the evidence of Biden corruption. Of course it needs to be investigated. 

[Guest]

It has to be public!

The whistleblower ... has been a bad boy.  He has been a serial leaker (for years before he became a whistleblower!!! )to the fake news ... that’s illegal.  Tied to the  fake dossier?  

That is why they pretend the leaker needs to be anonymous. 

Buckle up. This is going to be good.  

[Guest]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/46733...mpeachment

Public? Are you sure?

[Guest]

It doesnt matter if hes guilty. The senate wont impeach. This is and has been nothing more then political theater. 

[Guest]

@AGRforever said:
It doesnt matter if hes guilty. The senate wont impeach. This is and has been nothing more then political theater. 

At the bold... that's where we are now where being guilty does not matter. How is it political theater when the President and his own people have acknowledged it. The stories the president's aides have used to defend the call have changed so many times we cant count them all. Even a senator (Graham) is OK saying he will not read the transcript - a transcript one of their own prepared. Yet that same senator will vote and represent his constituents. And yep... we are ok with that too.
When I reread what you said I was really sad at how far we have regressed... that as you said, being guilty does not matter. Really? If guilt does not matter and we are rationalizing that then what good is the judicial system? What good is the constitution? Is everything really a conspiracy theory?

[Guest]

@mblack said:

@AGRforever said:
It doesnt matter if hes guilty. The senate wont impeach. This is and has been nothing more then political theater. 

At the bold... that's where we are now where being guilty does not matter. How is it political theater when the President and his own people have acknowledged it. The stories the president's aides have used to defend the call have changed so many times we cant count them all. Even a senator (Graham) is OK saying he will not read the transcript - a transcript one of their own prepared. Yet that same senator will vote and represent his constituents. And yep... we are ok with that too.
When I reread what you said I was really sad at how far we have regressed... that as you said, being guilty does not matter. Really? If guilt does not matter and we are rationalizing that then what good is the judicial system? What good is the constitution? Is everything really a conspiracy theory?

How about this?  He did nothing wrong.  All presidents have done this. 

The truth is the Biden corruption is huge.  Hillary used it to convince Biden to stay out of 2016.  

Hunter made millions from Ukraine illegally - Ukraine said so.  Watch the truth about Biden and Ukraine.  It is damning.  

This is all an attempt to end the outing of the real criminals.  Keep watching. 

We need to end the pay to play scams.  And the media is hiding the truth.  Why?

ABC hid Epstein.  Why?  George Stepanopolis was on Epstein Island.   That’s why.  

NBC hid Weinstein?  Why?  

[Guest]

@A1Janitor said:

@mblack said:

@AGRforever said:
It doesnt matter if hes guilty. The senate wont impeach. This is and has been nothing more then political theater. 

At the bold... that's where we are now where being guilty does not matter. How is it political theater when the President and his own people have acknowledged it. The stories the president's aides have used to defend the call have changed so many times we cant count them all. Even a senator (Graham) is OK saying he will not read the transcript - a transcript one of their own prepared. Yet that same senator will vote and represent his constituents. And yep... we are ok with that too.
When I reread what you said I was really sad at how far we have regressed... that as you said, being guilty does not matter. Really? If guilt does not matter and we are rationalizing that then what good is the judicial system? What good is the constitution? Is everything really a conspiracy theory?

How about this?  He did nothing wrong.  All presidents have done this.
"He did nothing wrong" is a far cry from "it doesn't matter if he is guilty". If someone is guilty it means they did something wrong in the eyes of the law so you are contradicting yourself.
And NO all presidents dont ask for help from foreign countries for personal political gain . Please stop spreading that falsehood




The truth is the Biden corruption is huge.  Hillary used it to convince Biden to stay out of 2016.  

Hunter made millions from Ukraine illegally - Ukraine said so.  Watch the truth about Biden and Ukraine.  It is damning.  

 What does this have to do with the bold statement I highlighted. Again deflection.


This is all an attempt to end the outing of the real criminals.  Keep watching. 

We need to end the pay to play scams.  And the media is hiding the truth.  Why? That's exactly what Congress is investigating.... you know the "quid pro quo" the president requested? The one you are now saying "he did nothing wrong" even after his own Ambassador and OMB directors said he did. Heck, even Trump said he did request it


ABC hid Epstein.  Why?  George Stepanopolis was on Epstein Island.   That’s why.  

NBC hid Weinstein?  Why?  
Again, deflection. If you want to discuss these then let's discuss them separately. Not bring these in when I challenge you statement in bold above.

[Guest]

LMAO

Trump was under investigation for the Russian hoax.  There is evidence that Ukraine is involved ... they put together the false dossier for Steele paid for by HRC.  Fusion GPS, Nellie Ohr working with Ukraine.

Ukraine was trying to give evidence of corruption with Hunter Biden - the DOJ refused to accept it.  

Burisma was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.  They went to Kerry as Sec of State.  Kerry and Biden got involved and had the prosecutor removed ... IN EXCHANGE FOR ... money to Biden and Kerry’s sons.  Quid pro quo.  

Trump was going after corruption in 2016.  

Hillary.  Biden.  A lot of people made illegal profits with corrupt Ukraine.  Of course Trump had to fire the ambassador and clean up the corruption.  

That isn’t a crime.  He is the chief executive officer.  He has that right.  He didn’t withhold aid.  He didn’t threaten to withhold aid.
The “whistleblowers” and dems and deep state crooks should have kept quiet about this phone call.  If Biden is guilty of these serious allegations - “going after his political opponent” is nonsense.  Only if he was innocent and Trump wanted a public, unfair investigation would there be a problem.  

Bidens are guilty.  And the dems know it and are letting him fail.   His campaign is over.  

I never said it doesn’t matter if he is guilty.  First, what is the crime?  And, if he broke the law, it does matter if he is guilty.  But they can’t name the crime.  

Russia hoax failed.  Transcript shows the call is not what the “whistleblower” said it was.  The deep state scumbags like the army guy, and the fired crooked ambassador, or war hawks with an agenda don’t matter.

Don’t like pulling troops out of syria?  Vote him out.  He promised to wipe out ISIS and end the needless and endless wars.  Years ago the left would have applauded that.  The left have become hawks and the right are now the doves?  Weird.  No wonder Jane Fonda is not fighting stupid wars now - and os focused on fake man made climate hoaxes.  

Years ago dems like Schumer, Clintons, Obama ... called for building a wall.  But not when the orange bad man wants it. 

Don’t want the wall?  Vote him out. 

He is the sole person that makes foreign policy.  What others think about it doesn’t matter.  

In the meantime, produce the evidence about the Bidens.  

And I meant all presidents hold back aid.  Obama did it.  Trump never connected aid to Obama.  Read the transcript.  Trump talked about the Europeans not paying their fair share of aid. He didn’t day to hold aid.  

As for the ambassador and directors - LMAO - they are crooks protecting the deep state. 

Brennan was a bad man.