Quote: @pumpf said:
@ pumpf said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ pumpf said:
Where? Where was the debate about late-term abortions? I'll be happy to debate that issue with you... but I never brought it up. I talked about children being killed after they were born- and Democrats doing nothing to prevent it. You (apparently) couldn't be bothered to read what I actually wrote... and then argued an issue that I never brought up (in this thread). And, to top it all off, you personally attacked me by comparing me to an evil, false prophet... and then attacked my work as a pastor. How can you not see that any of that was wrong? I wouldn't think of attacking you as a father or husband, just because we disagree on a myriad of topics. Yet you (and others) always make it your goal to- somehow- go after my faith or my calling as a pastor.
Is that what you call civil discourse?
As for killing healthy babies after they're born... my first question is: when did the health of the child matter in the debate as to whether or not to kill her? Is that really the qualifier you wanted to use? Does the fact that the baby have health issues matter in any other situations? Are you really suggesting that a child- who is already born- does not deserve the same rights / medical access as anyone else? This is not about abortion; this is about another human life that is alive outside of the womb. Wasn't THAT supposed to be the "red line" that determined what was a human life with a right to life... and a "clump of cells"?
And what about if the mother changes her mind? What if she saw her son born ALIVE... after a failed abortion... and wanted to keep him? Should she be allowed to do so? Well, it happened... and the abortion clinic refused to call 9-1-1... and they refused to give her any other kind of help. The boy died in the crying mother's arms. What's your opinion on that situation?
One other question, although I doubt you'll actually answer any of the questions I've posed: does Kermit Gosnell belong in prison or not?
I'm talking about the national debate about late-term abortion. That's the debate. Intentionally killing babies after they are born is already illegal.
OK... but I wasn't. And you used this opportunity to personally attack me, even though I wasn't at all talking about the "national debate". And, yes, it's already illegal... but that isn't stopping dozens of children from being killed anyway.
Now, do you want to answer any of my questions (or maybe apologize for your personal attacks)? Or should we just start talking about third-trimester abortions?
I read something once about turning the other cheek.
Is it just me, but you seem to routinely behave in tune with your political values but rarely with your Christian ones.
Examples?
Wait... so you accuse me of acting contrary to my faith (which, I confess, I do all the time... but I've tried hard not to do it as much here)... and then when I ask for an example, you mark it as "funny"... but don't actually respond. Now THAT is funny. But not surprising. Maroon refused to answer any of the questions I posed to him... and now you're doing the same.
It's almost like you guys don't have the ability to have a conversation with someone with whom you disagree. Fascinating.
Sooooo....if I'm following you here...you readily admit to what I stated about your behavior, yet I need to provide examples?
Tell me that I'm misinterpreting what you said.
To me, that's not funny, or fascinating...but disturbing.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@ pumpf said:
@ pumpf said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ pumpf said:
Where? Where was the debate about late-term abortions? I'll be happy to debate that issue with you... but I never brought it up. I talked about children being killed after they were born- and Democrats doing nothing to prevent it. You (apparently) couldn't be bothered to read what I actually wrote... and then argued an issue that I never brought up (in this thread). And, to top it all off, you personally attacked me by comparing me to an evil, false prophet... and then attacked my work as a pastor. How can you not see that any of that was wrong? I wouldn't think of attacking you as a father or husband, just because we disagree on a myriad of topics. Yet you (and others) always make it your goal to- somehow- go after my faith or my calling as a pastor.
Is that what you call civil discourse?
As for killing healthy babies after they're born... my first question is: when did the health of the child matter in the debate as to whether or not to kill her? Is that really the qualifier you wanted to use? Does the fact that the baby have health issues matter in any other situations? Are you really suggesting that a child- who is already born- does not deserve the same rights / medical access as anyone else? This is not about abortion; this is about another human life that is alive outside of the womb. Wasn't THAT supposed to be the "red line" that determined what was a human life with a right to life... and a "clump of cells"?
And what about if the mother changes her mind? What if she saw her son born ALIVE... after a failed abortion... and wanted to keep him? Should she be allowed to do so? Well, it happened... and the abortion clinic refused to call 9-1-1... and they refused to give her any other kind of help. The boy died in the crying mother's arms. What's your opinion on that situation?
One other question, although I doubt you'll actually answer any of the questions I've posed: does Kermit Gosnell belong in prison or not?
I'm talking about the national debate about late-term abortion. That's the debate. Intentionally killing babies after they are born is already illegal.
OK... but I wasn't. And you used this opportunity to personally attack me, even though I wasn't at all talking about the "national debate". And, yes, it's already illegal... but that isn't stopping dozens of children from being killed anyway.
Now, do you want to answer any of my questions (or maybe apologize for your personal attacks)? Or should we just start talking about third-trimester abortions?
I read something once about turning the other cheek.
Is it just me, but you seem to routinely behave in tune with your political values but rarely with your Christian ones.
Examples?
Wait... so you accuse me of acting contrary to my faith (which, I confess, I do all the time... but I've tried hard not to do it as much here)... and then when I ask for an example, you mark it as "funny"... but don't actually respond. Now THAT is funny. But not surprising. Maroon refused to answer any of the questions I posed to him... and now you're doing the same.
It's almost like you guys don't have the ability to have a conversation with someone with whom you disagree. Fascinating.
Sooooo....if I'm following you here...you readily admit to what I stated about your behavior, yet I need to provide examples?
Tell me that I'm misinterpreting what you said.
To me, that's not funny, or fascinating...but disturbing.
Stop being absurd. All real Christians admit they are sinners.
Now provide examples where he didn’t act according to his faith. Or stop slamming him with tired nonsense.
I'll just let his admissions stand if that's ok with you councillor.
Sorry for so viciously attacking you, A1.
Medic!
Jfc
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
Sorry for so viciously attacking you, A1.
Medic!
Jfc
You are grossly unfair to Pumpf and Christians.
I don’t give two shits what you say about me.
But libs get a free pass on here attacking people so have at it.
Pumpf isn’t my favorite poster ... after 2016. But I still respect him and his beliefs and an tired of the way he and others get treated.
I didn't realize how sensitive you were. My sincere apologies.
So, I'm slow...explain how I was unfair to pumpf for calling him out on something he readily admits to...
Show your work...if I like your reply, I'll send you a Chilli's gift certificate
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Classes? Oh my God, please tell me you don't teach this nonsense.
Please do respond with statistics. Find some hilbilly town in WV that has a higher drug rate or something.
If you want to run an experiment on how great Blue has done just look up municipal bond rates. Higher interest rate = more risky = investors think their chance of getting paid back are lower.
I can save you the time if you want. Zanary already made you a list.
You can't be this stupid. This reminds me of those maps that went around during election season that showed a "shocking" visual connection between where Democrats voted and the crime rate. It was quite a revelation....to folks who can't identify where CITIES are on a map.
Sure it's probably true that most of the major cities have crime problems. It's also true that most major cities have Democrats for mayors. Of course they do. But this is obviously more about population density than it is about politics. People in populous areas vote Democratic. Even in deep red states. Look it up, Dallas county, Harris county (where Houston is) just to name two, voted for Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton by wide margins.
Now, if you actually do a FAIR analysis and compare the crime rates of large cities run by both Dems and Republicans (there are a few), you'll find there is no significant difference between the two.
No, it's about shitty "leadership" from a horrible party.
Chicago, Baltimore, and many other cities in the dnc crime club have had generations of the same party butt-surfing those same populations...so, why should anyone expect either solutions or real leadership when there are so many active examples that show the result to be crimes/rapes/assaults/murders?
GENERATIONS...and things got worse.
The dnc is, and by, and for, filth.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Classes? Oh my God, please tell me you don't teach this nonsense.
Please do respond with statistics. Find some hilbilly town in WV that has a higher drug rate or something.
If you want to run an experiment on how great Blue has done just look up municipal bond rates. Higher interest rate = more risky = investors think their chance of getting paid back are lower.
I can save you the time if you want. Zanary already made you a list.
You can't be this stupid. This reminds me of those maps that went around during election season that showed a "shocking" visual connection between where Democrats voted and the crime rate. It was quite a revelation....to folks who can't identify where CITIES are on a map.
Sure it's probably true that most of the major cities have crime problems. It's also true that most major cities have Democrats for mayors. Of course they do. But this is obviously more about population density than it is about politics. People in populous areas vote Democratic. Even in deep red states. Look it up, Dallas county, Harris county (where Houston is) just to name two, voted for Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton by wide margins.
Now, if you actually do a FAIR analysis and compare the crime rates of large cities run by both Dems and Republicans (there are a few), you'll find there is no significant difference between the two.
MB! When you say " you can't be this stupid" they take it as a challenge.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Classes? Oh my God, please tell me you don't teach this nonsense.
Please do respond with statistics. Find some hilbilly town in WV that has a higher drug rate or something.
If you want to run an experiment on how great Blue has done just look up municipal bond rates. Higher interest rate = more risky = investors think their chance of getting paid back are lower.
I can save you the time if you want. Zanary already made you a list.
You can't be this stupid. This reminds me of those maps that went around during election season that showed a "shocking" visual connection between where Democrats voted and the crime rate. It was quite a revelation....to folks who can't identify where CITIES are on a map.
Sure it's probably true that most of the major cities have crime problems. It's also true that most major cities have Democrats for mayors. Of course they do. But this is obviously more about population density than it is about politics. People in populous areas vote Democratic. Even in deep red states. Look it up, Dallas county, Harris county (where Houston is) just to name two, voted for Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton by wide margins.
Now, if you actually do a FAIR analysis and compare the crime rates of large cities run by both Dems and Republicans (there are a few), you'll find there is no significant difference between the two.
No, it's about shitty "leadership" from a horrible party.
Chicago, Baltimore, and many other cities in the dnc crime club have had generations of the same party butt-surfing those same populations...so, why should anyone expect either solutions or real leadership when there are so many active examples that show the result to be crimes/rapes/assaults/murders?
GENERATIONS...and things got worse.
The dnc is, and by, and for, filth.
Wow...you sound like a nut. Are you OK? Should we be concerned?
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