Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
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Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
He isn’t a hero or a martyr. While there are legitimate discussions needed on the police, race, etc ... he hurt the cause.
Let’s not forget his kneeling was not his first attempt at bringing light to problems. He started by wearing socks with pigs dressed as cops.
MLK was a hero. CK was a washed up football player using racial divide as a way to make money and fame. He became a hero to the left. He hurt black relations with police. He ignored the true problems within the black community.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
yes we should work to end racial injustice. Nothing wrong with divisive if done for the right reasons. I don't see CK as working toward any type of healing or ending of it. I see it more as stirring the pot for personal gain.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
yes we should work to end racial injustice. Nothing wrong with divisive if done for the right reasons. I don't see CK as working toward any type of healing or ending of it. I see it more as stirring the pot for personal gain.
I wonder if black folks see it that way. Who determines if it's for the "right" reasons?
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
yes we should work to end racial injustice. Nothing wrong with divisive if done for the right reasons. I don't see CK as working toward any type of healing or ending of it. I see it more as stirring the pot for personal gain.
I wonder if black folks see it that way. Who determines if it's for the "right" reasons?
come on man, the pig socks pretty much ruined any chance he had at facilitating any meaningful change. the way to garner attention and support for a cause is not to piss off or offend those that you hope to attract to your cause. I am all for stopping police injustices, I am all for fixing the racial tensions and issues in this country, but i also recognize that its a very small % that are drawing the attention and him making his statement with those socks say I want nothing to do with that dumb ass. they are trying to make a black vs cop thing and that is such an ignorant way to go at it if they really want to make any significant changes.
besides if he really cared about young black males.. how about wearing socks that dress up pigs like gangs bangers and drug dealers? they are a much bigger threat to innocent young black Americans than law enforcement officers.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
yes we should work to end racial injustice. Nothing wrong with divisive if done for the right reasons. I don't see CK as working toward any type of healing or ending of it. I see it more as stirring the pot for personal gain.
I wonder if black folks see it that way. Who determines if it's for the "right" reasons?
besides if he really cared about young black males.. how about wearing socks that dress up pigs like gangs bangers and drug dealers? they are a much bigger threat to innocent young black Americans than law enforcement officers.
I don't think they see it that way. Hell, I don't think I see it that way. I warn my kids about gangs and drugs, but I don't have the conversation with my white kids about cops that many black families are forced to have with theirs.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
He isn’t a hero or a martyr. While there are legitimate discussions needed on the police, race, etc ... he hurt the cause.
Let’s not forget his kneeling was not his first attempt at bringing light to problems. He started by wearing socks with pigs dressed as cops.
MLK was a hero. CK was a washed up football player using racial divide as a way to make money and fame. He became a hero to the left. He hurt black relations with police. He ignored the true problems within the black community.
At the bold....Trump talked about grabbing women by the ... and paying women off, insulted Gold Star families, promoting divide yet he is president and "we" are still defending him. Give the guy a chance... he made a mistake.
Putting aside some of his immature and stupid messaging, I think it is entirely unfair to say that he was "using racial divide as a way to make money and fame." You may recall that he signed a performance-based contract -- meaning, if he didn't perform, he didn't get paid. The actual guarantees were very small and Kaepernick's salary for any year went down $2 million each year if he was not named first- or second-team All-Pro, or if the 49ers didn't play in the Super Bowl the previous season with 80% of the snaps taken by Kaepernick. No player has ever entered a contract like that before or after. He could have made a lot more in his career but he believed in being paid for actual future production. That was stupid but it shows he was not simply motivated by money. Moreover, in his football career, he would have made a lot more money by simply staying quiet about the things he believed in -- like a lot of people do. As for fame, I think the first post above proves that he does not do things for fame. Frankly, he appears to back up what he says with action -- maybe he lacks judgement in how he backs up his words and beliefs but I don't think it is fair to say he is motivated by "fame and money."
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
yes we should work to end racial injustice. Nothing wrong with divisive if done for the right reasons. I don't see CK as working toward any type of healing or ending of it. I see it more as stirring the pot for personal gain.
I wonder if black folks see it that way. Who determines if it's for the "right" reasons?
Reasons may differ, but his approach kinda shot that all to hell. Can't believe anyone can look at him and say that is a man I want fronting my campaign.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
He isn’t a hero or a martyr. While there are legitimate discussions needed on the police, race, etc ... he hurt the cause.
Let’s not forget his kneeling was not his first attempt at bringing light to problems. He started by wearing socks with pigs dressed as cops.
MLK was a hero. CK was a washed up football player using racial divide as a way to make money and fame. He became a hero to the left. He hurt black relations with police. He ignored the true problems within the black community.
At the bold....Trump talked about grabbing women by the ... and paying women off, insulted Gold Star families, promoting divide yet he is president and "we" are still defending him. Give the guy a chance... he made a mistake.
oh my. And Clinton raped Broderick and Hillary called people deplorable...
That really pertains to the conversation, doesn't it.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
its because he champions for racial issues, that makes him a martyr hero a divisive figure and great for media fixation no matter what the facts are about the rest of the story.
Fixed it for you.
fixed it more.
Nothing wrong with divisive. Jesus was divisive. MLK was divisive. Shouldn't we all be working to thwart racial injustice--injustice of any kind?
Sure we should... if it exists. But the case he was making (that police were intentionally targeting minorities) was pure B.S. More race-baiting rhetoric from those who profit from it. Plus, his way of going about it was NOTHING like MLK. Ask yourself: did racial issues get better or worse because of Kap's protests (and his way of protesting)? I'd say he certainly got attention to something that he believed... but he didn't do ANYTHING to fix that perceived problem. Hence, he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as MLK. By the way, both MLK and Jesus made "real" sacrifices for the good of others. I don't see Kap doing anything that is genuinely "sacrificial". If anything, he's making money off of his "protest".
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