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Boo birds in Chicago
#21
Quote: @greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@muydnbejydk said:
@greediron said:
@Skodin said:
they are playing Mitchell. 

we had to play Chase
And we had a plan for the running tribusky.
  
Exactly, Zimmer took a lot of heat, but it's not that easy to face a completely opposite type QB than was game planned for.
he deserves a lot of heat,  you have to be able to handle changes from the game plan.  you cant say o shit... well we'll get em next time.  I am sorry but going from a shitty mobile QB to his immobile back up is something our D should feast on,  not be made to look the fools as that career clipboard holder carves them up.
2 things.  One, the other team gets paid to do their job as well.  Sometimes they do it better than our team does.
Two, I think your take is a bit simplistic.  Zimmer has built a great D.  And they can adjust series to series.  But much of what they do is built on their game plan, the film they watched and the plan of attack.  And even if they adjust, there is momentum and the other team can make great plays as well. 

If you recall, after the first drive and TD in Chicago, their offense didn't do that much even with the offense turning the ball over constantly.  So yeah, that first drive when Mitch got hurt, I can see it taking that time to adjust.
this isnt the first time they have played poorly when they should have feasted.   if you dont want to call it out,  then dont,  but that bears offense should have been destroyed that day and they were walking down the field at will on our high priced D.   I cant over look all the money on that side of the ball and give them to many breaks or excuses.  They are getting paid to be dominant and they certainly have showed less than dominance on more than one occasion this year.
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#22
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@muydnbejydk said:
@greediron said:
@Skodin said:
they are playing Mitchell. 

we had to play Chase
And we had a plan for the running tribusky.
  
Exactly, Zimmer took a lot of heat, but it's not that easy to face a completely opposite type QB than was game planned for.
he deserves a lot of heat,  you have to be able to handle changes from the game plan.  you cant say o shit... well we'll get em next time.  I am sorry but going from a shitty mobile QB to his immobile back up is something our D should feast on,  not be made to look the fools as that career clipboard holder carves them up.
2 things.  One, the other team gets paid to do their job as well.  Sometimes they do it better than our team does.
Two, I think your take is a bit simplistic.  Zimmer has built a great D.  And they can adjust series to series.  But much of what they do is built on their game plan, the film they watched and the plan of attack.  And even if they adjust, there is momentum and the other team can make great plays as well. 

If you recall, after the first drive and TD in Chicago, their offense didn't do that much even with the offense turning the ball over constantly.  So yeah, that first drive when Mitch got hurt, I can see it taking that time to adjust.
this isnt the first time they have played poorly when they should have feasted.   if you dont want to call it out,  then dont,  but that bears offense should have been destroyed that day and they were walking down the field at will on our high priced D.   I cant over look all the money on that side of the ball and give them to many breaks or excuses.  They are getting paid to be dominant and they certainly have showed less than dominance on more than one occasion this year.
You do realize they gave up a whopping 3 FGs after that first drive?  Just over 200 yards passing and about 70 yards rushing.   And 75 of those yards were on the opening drive.  Chicago got one FG on a -4 yard drive.
Yeah that was a real ass kicking our D took that day. 

Or maybe our offense couldn't get the run going and Cousins struggled mightily.
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#23
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
We all know its not who you play but when you play em...

I dont think the Cowboys will be as easy to play on the road as some of you do, Chiefs too (Mahomes or not). 

@ Seattle? When's the last time we won at that stadium? Ever?

As happy as I am with 3 wins in a row, we need some road wins against hot teams for me to truly believe.  
We have played there 9 times in 40 years, 2-7 record, last win 10/22/06 31-13, prior to that 11/18/90, 24-21.  
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#24
Quote: @greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@muydnbejydk said:
@greediron said:
@Skodin said:
they are playing Mitchell. 

we had to play Chase
And we had a plan for the running tribusky.
  
Exactly, Zimmer took a lot of heat, but it's not that easy to face a completely opposite type QB than was game planned for.
he deserves a lot of heat,  you have to be able to handle changes from the game plan.  you cant say o shit... well we'll get em next time.  I am sorry but going from a shitty mobile QB to his immobile back up is something our D should feast on,  not be made to look the fools as that career clipboard holder carves them up.
2 things.  One, the other team gets paid to do their job as well.  Sometimes they do it better than our team does.
Two, I think your take is a bit simplistic.  Zimmer has built a great D.  And they can adjust series to series.  But much of what they do is built on their game plan, the film they watched and the plan of attack.  And even if they adjust, there is momentum and the other team can make great plays as well. 

If you recall, after the first drive and TD in Chicago, their offense didn't do that much even with the offense turning the ball over constantly.  So yeah, that first drive when Mitch got hurt, I can see it taking that time to adjust.
this isnt the first time they have played poorly when they should have feasted.   if you dont want to call it out,  then dont,  but that bears offense should have been destroyed that day and they were walking down the field at will on our high priced D.   I cant over look all the money on that side of the ball and give them to many breaks or excuses.  They are getting paid to be dominant and they certainly have showed less than dominance on more than one occasion this year.
You do realize they gave up a whopping 3 FGs after that first drive?  Just over 200 yards passing and about 70 yards rushing.   And 75 of those yards were on the opening drive.  Chicago got one FG on a -4 yard drive.
Yeah that was a real ass kicking our D took that day. 

Or maybe our offense couldn't get the run going and Cousins struggled mightily.
they couldnt get off the field in the first half.   over 18 minutes TOP for the bears on 3 drives.   half they game they played like shit IMO,  yes they improved in the second half,  but they are getting paid like the top D in the league and needed to be better to start that game and they werent.   if you are satisfied with that effort, good for you,  I expect more for the amount of money being thrown at some of those guys.
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#25
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@muydnbejydk said:
@greediron said:
@Skodin said:
they are playing Mitchell. 

we had to play Chase
And we had a plan for the running tribusky.
  
Exactly, Zimmer took a lot of heat, but it's not that easy to face a completely opposite type QB than was game planned for.
he deserves a lot of heat,  you have to be able to handle changes from the game plan.  you cant say o shit... well we'll get em next time.  I am sorry but going from a shitty mobile QB to his immobile back up is something our D should feast on,  not be made to look the fools as that career clipboard holder carves them up.
2 things.  One, the other team gets paid to do their job as well.  Sometimes they do it better than our team does.
Two, I think your take is a bit simplistic.  Zimmer has built a great D.  And they can adjust series to series.  But much of what they do is built on their game plan, the film they watched and the plan of attack.  And even if they adjust, there is momentum and the other team can make great plays as well. 

If you recall, after the first drive and TD in Chicago, their offense didn't do that much even with the offense turning the ball over constantly.  So yeah, that first drive when Mitch got hurt, I can see it taking that time to adjust.
this isnt the first time they have played poorly when they should have feasted.   if you dont want to call it out,  then dont,  but that bears offense should have been destroyed that day and they were walking down the field at will on our high priced D.   I cant over look all the money on that side of the ball and give them to many breaks or excuses.  They are getting paid to be dominant and they certainly have showed less than dominance on more than one occasion this year.
You do realize they gave up a whopping 3 FGs after that first drive?  Just over 200 yards passing and about 70 yards rushing.   And 75 of those yards were on the opening drive.  Chicago got one FG on a -4 yard drive.
Yeah that was a real ass kicking our D took that day. 

Or maybe our offense couldn't get the run going and Cousins struggled mightily.
they couldnt get off the field in the first half.   over 18 minutes TOP for the bears on 3 drives.   half they game they played like shit IMO,  yes they improved in the second half,  but they are getting paid like the top D in the league and needed to be better to start that game and they werent.   if you are satisfied with that effort, good for you,  I expect more for the amount of money being thrown at some of those guys.
No, not saying they were good that day.  Just not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.  TOP also rests on the offense staying on the field as well.  With the $ spent on that side of the ball, one would expect more than a couple 3 and outs.
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#26
Quote: @greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@muydnbejydk said:
@greediron said:
@Skodin said:
they are playing Mitchell. 

we had to play Chase
And we had a plan for the running tribusky.
  
Exactly, Zimmer took a lot of heat, but it's not that easy to face a completely opposite type QB than was game planned for.
he deserves a lot of heat,  you have to be able to handle changes from the game plan.  you cant say o shit... well we'll get em next time.  I am sorry but going from a shitty mobile QB to his immobile back up is something our D should feast on,  not be made to look the fools as that career clipboard holder carves them up.
2 things.  One, the other team gets paid to do their job as well.  Sometimes they do it better than our team does.
Two, I think your take is a bit simplistic.  Zimmer has built a great D.  And they can adjust series to series.  But much of what they do is built on their game plan, the film they watched and the plan of attack.  And even if they adjust, there is momentum and the other team can make great plays as well. 

If you recall, after the first drive and TD in Chicago, their offense didn't do that much even with the offense turning the ball over constantly.  So yeah, that first drive when Mitch got hurt, I can see it taking that time to adjust.
this isnt the first time they have played poorly when they should have feasted.   if you dont want to call it out,  then dont,  but that bears offense should have been destroyed that day and they were walking down the field at will on our high priced D.   I cant over look all the money on that side of the ball and give them to many breaks or excuses.  They are getting paid to be dominant and they certainly have showed less than dominance on more than one occasion this year.
You do realize they gave up a whopping 3 FGs after that first drive?  Just over 200 yards passing and about 70 yards rushing.   And 75 of those yards were on the opening drive.  Chicago got one FG on a -4 yard drive.
Yeah that was a real ass kicking our D took that day. 

Or maybe our offense couldn't get the run going and Cousins struggled mightily.
Time of Possession. It's real. So is Field Position when you're on the road against one of the best Defenses in the whole damn League. So is momemtum. As in sacks, turnovers, etc.

I have zero problems with the Defense yesterday other than Rhodes is old. Happened to Revis and is happening to him. Franchise QB was hot, hot, hot and so was one of his WRs. It happens.

Chase Fucking Daniels is neither a Franchise QB nor wax he lava hot that game. Where were the 3 & Outs? The plays that changed field position? The momentum changers?

Nowhere. Just like they weren't there against Chicago WITH their shitty, inaccurate QB at home with the Playoffs at stake last year. Just like they weren't there against Luck and not a great Indy Roster at home with the Playoffs at stake.

Some of you think some of us have an Agenda or hate Zimmer. Reality is that we're calling out some EPIC poor Defensive efforts from a team with a Defense-Oriented HC and a Roster heavy on high picks and contracts on the Defensive side of the ball. And frankly, the next time this D humps the bunk in a huge game against a middling to poor Offense we're going to be here pointing it out again.
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