You want to talk DeSantis?

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@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

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@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.

If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.

I think Trumplestilskin swooning, repeatedly, over a filthy mass murderer is a reminder that he's a s**t person.

its a joke that people apply one standard to Trump and look the othee way on Joe.  shows the idiocy of the media and voters in general. 

Oh, there's no double standard here, it's calling out a filthy s**tbag of a "man" for constantly heaping praise, over and over, on a murderous horror show of a person.  This isn't about the media, this isn't about any "Trumplestilskin vs Zombie Joe" or whatever...

...this is simply calling out a s****y, pathetic, attention whore of a person, for his completely voluntary decisions to heap praise on Russia's current head mass rape/murder enabler.  He chose to keep making that babble...him.

No spin, no double standards, just him doubling and tripling down on how brilliant Vlad is, even after he set on his murderous mission.

I know that the Donald, a spineless filthboi, never admits anything or takes responsibility for his actions/deeds...what makes me want to vomit is that the drones in his fan club spin excuses for him just as rabidly.

You’re a true example of someone who is so far gone as to be worthless to argue with.  Clearly the brainwash has been completed on you by the politics and collusion with the media of the left.  While it’s totally obvious that they’re incompetent, they’ve successfully lied enough over and over to make Trump unacceptable to you.  It doesn’t speak at all well to thought out positions, just your hysteria.  You’re the puppet in this situation.

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@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

He can still be a corrupt, enabled, power-drunk assclown that was all about domestic surveillance in NDAA bills, along with what is considered our "police state"....and that's before we ask why we can't know about people pulled from his son's case(s).

Nothing like decades of influence....

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@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

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@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.

If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.

I think Trumplestilskin swooning, repeatedly, over a filthy mass murderer is a reminder that he's a s**t person.

its a joke that people apply one standard to Trump and look the othee way on Joe.  shows the idiocy of the media and voters in general. 

Oh, there's no double standard here, it's calling out a filthy s**tbag of a "man" for constantly heaping praise, over and over, on a murderous horror show of a person.  This isn't about the media, this isn't about any "Trumplestilskin vs Zombie Joe" or whatever...

...this is simply calling out a s****y, pathetic, attention whore of a person, for his completely voluntary decisions to heap praise on Russia's current head mass rape/murder enabler.  He chose to keep making that babble...him.

No spin, no double standards, just him doubling and tripling down on how brilliant Vlad is, even after he set on his murderous mission.

I know that the Donald, a spineless filthboi, never admits anything or takes responsibility for his actions/deeds...what makes me want to vomit is that the drones in his fan club spin excuses for him just as rabidly.

You’re a true example of someone who is so far gone as to be worthless to argue with.  Clearly the brainwash has been completed on you by the politics and collusion with the media of the left.  While it’s totally obvious that they’re incompetent, they’ve successfully lied enough over and over to make Trump unacceptable to you.  It doesn’t speak at all well to thought out positions, just your hysteria.  You’re the puppet in this situation.

So, you're admitting that you have no ability to explain your chosen hero's cheerleading for a mass murderer?  You can't debate any point of it, you can't actually match a point, just babble some drool about "puppets" and "brainwash"?

Sparky, I don't answer to either of the main parties, I don't deal with major media except to research what they leave out...and I'm sure as hell not some drone shrieking about "Jewish Space Lasers" like MTG, of simply pointing across the aisle and frothing "RACIST FASCIST NAZI" in time-honored west lefty fashion.

You, on the other hand, seem to be puppet enough to run and hide from points that you know you can't debate.  Don't be a coward, actually defend any reason for the sputtering orange savior to praise a man that's gotten over 100,000 combined people killed over the last year.

Quit being gutless about it, or just admit you've got nothing.

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@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Oh, this is comedy!
"Those of you who claim to be in the middle..." you mean, the actual majority of voters that aren't supporting either party behind $30+ trillion in growing debt?  The red cap dunce club has shown to be utterly disconnected from reality for years, whether conveniently forgetting that orange boi brought the initial vax and lockdowns (they work VERY hard to blame Biden), to parrot every bit of spittle that he sprays, uselessly, all over his podiums (would we be here if his NFL boycott happened?  Also, how did Bubba Wallace 'ruin' NASCAR, exactly?), and again...he waxes poetic over the "brilliance" of some of the worst people on Earth, including a full-on mass murderer/rapist.  Imagine my surprise that Carlson was another fan of that bloody monstrosity.

You try to speak for others, but you're showing absolute blind allegiance for the Donald while not actually debating other points...which makes you just like most of his other fanbois I've dealt with, they've got less than nothing to actually debate with.

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@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Oh, this is comedy!
"Those of you who claim to be in the middle..." you mean, the actual majority of voters that aren't supporting either party behind $30+ trillion in growing debt?  The red cap dunce club has shown to be utterly disconnected from reality for years, whether conveniently forgetting that orange boi brought the initial vax and lockdowns (they work VERY hard to blame Biden), to parrot every bit of spittle that he sprays, uselessly, all over his podiums (would we be here if his NFL boycott happened?  Also, how did Bubba Wallace 'ruin' NASCAR, exactly?), and again...he waxes poetic over the "brilliance" of some of the worst people on Earth, including a full-on mass murderer/rapist.  Imagine my surprise that Carlson was another fan of that bloody monstrosity.

You try to speak for others, but you're showing absolute blind allegiance for the Donald while not actually debating other points...which makes you just like most of his other fanbois I've dealt with, they've got less than nothing to actually debate with.

No, I just choose to wade theough the mud to get to the truth.  i cant address your claim because its so hysterical and tarnished as to not be worth the time. i agree that were kind of funneled into one or two parties.  check your math above and try to show me where your so called middle fround is showing up on slection day. lol. you people are literally willing to let this country dissolve into chaos and poverty rather than asmit youve been duped. Im ashamed of anyone who claims Biden is better for this countey than Trump.  

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@Waterboy said:

@Zanary said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Oh, this is comedy!
"Those of you who claim to be in the middle..." you mean, the actual majority of voters that aren't supporting either party behind $30+ trillion in growing debt?  The red cap dunce club has shown to be utterly disconnected from reality for years, whether conveniently forgetting that orange boi brought the initial vax and lockdowns (they work VERY hard to blame Biden), to parrot every bit of spittle that he sprays, uselessly, all over his podiums (would we be here if his NFL boycott happened?  Also, how did Bubba Wallace 'ruin' NASCAR, exactly?), and again...he waxes poetic over the "brilliance" of some of the worst people on Earth, including a full-on mass murderer/rapist.  Imagine my surprise that Carlson was another fan of that bloody monstrosity.

You try to speak for others, but you're showing absolute blind allegiance for the Donald while not actually debating other points...which makes you just like most of his other fanbois I've dealt with, they've got less than nothing to actually debate with.

No, I just choose to wade theough the mud to get to the truth.  i cant address your claim because its so hysterical and tarnished as to not be worth the time. i agree that were kind of funneled into one or two parties.  check your math above and try to show me where your so called middle fround is showing up on slection day. lol. you people are literally willing to let this country dissolve into chaos and poverty rather than asmit youve been duped. Im ashamed of anyone who claims Biden is better for this countey than Trump.  

Your spelling would shame a 2nd grader, I guess you're all kinds of upset...because you're still unable to explain why your hero is constantly propping up a mass murderer.

That doesn't require "wading through", that's been central in my posts.  Anyone with basic English comprehension could find it...but, the redcap club might be below that standard.

You keep saying I've been "duped", but proving that is on you.  Duped by who, and when?  I don't prop up either your Sunkist savior or sleepy joe, I don't trust CNN or Faux Nooz, so...I'm sure you get this question a lot...what do you imagine you're talking about?

Just admit that you can't debate, just like the rest of the trumpettes, because they always fail when asked for real points/facts.  Always.

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@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@AGRforever said:

@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Then I guess I’ll wear that crown. Trump couldn’t win the popular vote against Hillary Frickin Clinton. She was easily the least popular politician in 40 years. You think after all his antics during his presidency and January 6th, that his popularity has increased?

He’s not President because he lost to Biden. Voters didn’t want him then and they certainly don’t want him now. 

I’m not the middle politically.  I slant heavily Libertarian.  I’ll vote Republican if they have a good candidate. Trump is anything but one. 

You can sign my name on the nuclear warhead that senile Biden is going to launch if it’ll make you feel better.  

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I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Oh, this is comedy!
"Those of you who claim to be in the middle..." you mean, the actual majority of voters that aren't supporting either party behind $30+ trillion in growing debt?  The red cap dunce club has shown to be utterly disconnected from reality for years, whether conveniently forgetting that orange boi brought the initial vax and lockdowns (they work VERY hard to blame Biden), to parrot every bit of spittle that he sprays, uselessly, all over his podiums (would we be here if his NFL boycott happened?  Also, how did Bubba Wallace 'ruin' NASCAR, exactly?), and again...he waxes poetic over the "brilliance" of some of the worst people on Earth, including a full-on mass murderer/rapist.  Imagine my surprise that Carlson was another fan of that bloody monstrosity.

You try to speak for others, but you're showing absolute blind allegiance for the Donald while not actually debating other points...which makes you just like most of his other fanbois I've dealt with, they've got less than nothing to actually debate with.

 Im ashamed of anyone who claims Biden is better for this countey than Trump.  

Go Joe Go, 2024!!!