Will not matter who it's going to be until we build out the trenches. Need a center with a lead anchor that doesn't get pushed back into the QB every pass play. Need some good backs too. Memory's a bit fuzzy but some better some better guard play would have been nice(could be wrong might have been the tackles/backups). Games are won in the trenches converting 3rd or sometimes fourth. Our line needs to win the LOS battle.
In the meantime I gotta get back to work on expanding that Championship case for all the trophies Kirk brought to Vikings. Don't get me wrong, I liked Kirk Cousins the man, ... but Kirk Cousins the player gave me fits. 1 Division Title. 1 Playoff Win. ...In six seasons( really 5.5 but... meh close enough) just isn't enough for me to think the Vikings are done for.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
Bite the bullet, draft a qb
Quote: @Bezerker88 said:
Will not matter who it's going to be until we build out the trenches. Need a center with a lead anchor that doesn't get pushed back into the QB every pass play. Need some good backs too. Memory's a bit fuzzy but some better some better guard play would have been nice(could be wrong might have been the tackles/backups). Games are won in the trenches converting 3rd or sometimes fourth. Our line needs to win the LOS battle.
In the meantime I gotta get back to work on expanding that Championship case for all the trophies Kirk brought to Vikings. Don't get me wrong, I liked Kirk Cousins the man, ... but Kirk Cousins the player gave me fits. 1 Division Title. 1 Playoff Win. ...In six seasons( really 5.5 but... meh close enough) just isn't enough for me to think the Vikings are done for.
Did the same person write both paragraphs? Dissociative identity disorder is weird disease...
Darnold, Wilson, or Davis Mills. Super Bowl, here we come!!!
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
Anyone know if Mills used to bag groceries in Iowa by chance?
Quote: @pattersaur said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
Anyone know if Mills used to bag groceries in Iowa by chance?
No, but i have heard he was terrible for the Texans
When the Falcons come to U.S. Bank this season hopefully Cousins is still playing and not on IR. It will be fun to watch if the Falcons are still alive for a playoff spot. That may be too much to hope for.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
So again I ask, what good was the competitive rebuild model? What has that strategy really gotten us? Playoff wins, nope. Hanging on to Cousins and kicking future money into dead years so we could retain him, nope. Positioned to draft a franchise QB without having to "give up the farm?" Nope. So we now get the honor of giving up a shit ton of draft picks to move up and take a swing on a quarterback who could very well bust and throw us into a Hershal Walker type black hole, all so we could be "competitive" and appease the Wilfs egos when we should have blown this up from the day they decided to can Zimmer and Spielman.. This front office has no idea what they are doing, and I hate to say I'm right and have been right....but I'm right! Going to be very interesting to see how they try to dig this franchise out of the hoke they created. My only hope as a fan is that they don't make that hole deeper in the process.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ Vikergirl said:
At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #
How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out.
Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year.
Any idea what a plan B will look like?
Yup,
What do you envision as a Plan B (for bridge)
Do you expect them to get aggressive in moving-up for a QB, or is that not realistic or their style?
Translate year to year vs a 3 or 4 year guarantee?
Darnold is high on their list if they go the FA route, but think they will look at trade options as well. I don't foresee Fields, but Zach Wilson is apparently someone KOC is still high on and he'd be cheap. Davis Mills could be another option as well. But I think their goal is to find their franchise QB in the draft, which just might take biting the bullet and moving up.
If KOC is actually high on Wilson, I have zero faith in KOC's ability to judge NFL talent. There's a reason he'd be cheap. Davis Mills? Just give me another year of Hall.
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