Another day another mass murder in Amerika...

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@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

 I still find your analysis a non sequitur, and that my opinion.  What's the Holiday inn comment mean? 

@BigAl99 said:

Yes I judged by his appearance, was I wrong?  Do you think the police knew his name and nationality or were they just going by looks in the heat of the moment?   Statistically you only have news organizations keeping track, Police do not and will not, keep a database to analyze for this information.  But from the numbers I have looked at, news organizations, it's between 2.5 to 2.7 times, white ~ 12 deaths per million vs 22 Hispanic and 30 for Black, deaths per million.  My comment was that in the last week two out of two mass murders survived their apprehension.  Pure and simple.  

Well if it is non sequitur, you started it.  Guessing there was no sleeping at the holiday inn?

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LMAO.  I have seen people play the clueless angle before, but this is a pathetic attempt at the dumb soldier routine.

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@greediron said:
LMAO.  I have seen people play the clueless angle before, but this is a pathetic attempt at the dumb soldier routine.

Okay what's your point then, your tying the multi quote arguments, where you going with it.  Trying to prove something to someone.  How do stand on the topic for or against. 

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@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:
LMAO.  I have seen people play the clueless angle before, but this is a pathetic attempt at the dumb soldier routine.

Okay what's your point then, your tying the multi quote arguments, where you going with it.  Trying to prove something to someone.  How do stand on the topic for or against. 

Are we going back to gun ownership or staying on cops killing people?

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:
LMAO.  I have seen people play the clueless angle before, but this is a pathetic attempt at the dumb soldier routine.

Okay what's your point then, your tying the multi quote arguments, where you going with it.  Trying to prove something to someone.  How do stand on the topic for or against. 

Are we going back to gun ownership or staying on cops killing people?

You two interchangeable, two hearts beating as one?  I always get you guys, I presume, confused, either that or it could just be an echo in the place.   

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@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Both have untold generations of corruption all through their "leadership", and the citizens have traded their spines for horrid statism.

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@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

NY blew me away the first time I went...Our kid was accepted into Parsons Design School in Manhattan and we had to move em out there to a dorm.  Talk about learning experiences for parents and adults lol!! 

You felt like you were plugged in, I felt like I was born there...Cant wait to get back. Boston is so historic as is NOLA and I love Nashville, Austin and Seattle too.

The South and West Charm is different than Midwest and NE. Those differences make our country great. So sad when we see through a lens of red vs blue, Dem cities vs Repub's. 

Now our kid is in LA and while I love the ocean, the weather, legal weed, vegan galore and palm trees, it's as soulless as Bentonville, AR. imo. 

LOL. I'm happy I'm not the only one who sees LA that way. The great thing about big cities is that it's like visiting a foreign country without a passport. NOLA is like going to Paris. Montreal is like that too. NYC is like visiting Italy, Puerto Rico and a hundred different other countries, each a five minute subway ride away.

Next time I go I want to explore Harlem. Last time I was there, the person I was with was afraid to go there. And this was when Bill Clinton had an apartment there. Parts of Chicago are right out of Poland. Walk in Boston's north end and it's like you're walking in Naples. Can you tell I'm ready to start traveling again?

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@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

NY blew me away the first time I went...Our kid was accepted into Parsons Design School in Manhattan and we had to move em out there to a dorm.  Talk about learning experiences for parents and adults lol!! 

You felt like you were plugged in, I felt like I was born there...Cant wait to get back. Boston is so historic as is NOLA and I love Nashville, Austin and Seattle too.

The South and West Charm is different than Midwest and NE. Those differences make our country great. So sad when we see through a lens of red vs blue, Dem cities vs Repub's. 

Now our kid is in LA and while I love the ocean, the weather, legal weed, vegan galore and palm trees, it's as soulless as Bentonville, AR. imo. 

LOL. I'm happy I'm not the only one who sees LA that way. The great thing about big cities is that it's like visiting a foreign country without a passport. NOLA is like going to Paris. Montreal is like that too. NYC is like visiting Italy, Puerto Rico and a hundred different other countries, each a five minute subway ride away.

Next time I go I want to explore Harlem. Last time I was there, the person I was with was afraid to go there. And this was when Bill Clinton had an apartment there. Parts of Chicago are right out of Poland. Walk in Boston's north end and it's like you're walking in Naples. Can you tell I'm ready to start traveling again?

Agreed. One thing that blows visitors away from other countries when they come here is they can walk around NYC, stop in an area to eat and everyone is speaking Italian. Walk to another and its Chinese. They love it. Our diversity and immigrant history in the USA is OUR STRENGTH. We are all descendants of freaking immigrants unless you are American Indian, the only true native Americans. And our black population is here because of slavery. 

But when you are white and live in North Dakota your whole life and know nothing else,  big cities are 'scary' and 'shitholes'. Its stupid. 

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@StickyBun said:

@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

NY blew me away the first time I went...Our kid was accepted into Parsons Design School in Manhattan and we had to move em out there to a dorm.  Talk about learning experiences for parents and adults lol!! 

You felt like you were plugged in, I felt like I was born there...Cant wait to get back. Boston is so historic as is NOLA and I love Nashville, Austin and Seattle too.

The South and West Charm is different than Midwest and NE. Those differences make our country great. So sad when we see through a lens of red vs blue, Dem cities vs Repub's. 

Now our kid is in LA and while I love the ocean, the weather, legal weed, vegan galore and palm trees, it's as soulless as Bentonville, AR. imo. 

LOL. I'm happy I'm not the only one who sees LA that way. The great thing about big cities is that it's like visiting a foreign country without a passport. NOLA is like going to Paris. Montreal is like that too. NYC is like visiting Italy, Puerto Rico and a hundred different other countries, each a five minute subway ride away.

Next time I go I want to explore Harlem. Last time I was there, the person I was with was afraid to go there. And this was when Bill Clinton had an apartment there. Parts of Chicago are right out of Poland. Walk in Boston's north end and it's like you're walking in Naples. Can you tell I'm ready to start traveling again?

Agreed. One thing that blows visitors away from other countries when they come here is they can walk around NYC, stop in an area to eat and everyone is speaking Italian. Walk to another and its Chinese. They love it. Our diversity and immigrant history in the USA is OUR STRENGTH. We are all descendants of freaking immigrants unless you are American Indian, the only true native Americans. And our black population is here because of slavery. 

But when you are white and live in North Dakota your whole life and know nothing else,  big cities are 'scary' and 'shitholes'. Its stupid. 

What if you are a black and lived in ND your whole life and think some big cities are shit holes?

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@purplefaithful said:

@Zanary said:
So, here's the "logic" I've been getting from the left for years, now:

"THERE'S A WHACKO GUN NUT WITH AN AR-15 BEHIND EVERY TREE! WE NEED TO TAKE YOUR, OOPS, THEIR GUNS!"

"YOU NEED TO LET THE GUBMINT HAVE ALL THE GUNS, AS WE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!"

'OH, AND SORRY POLICE REACTION TIMES ARE GETTING SLOWER, IT'S FASHIONABLE TO HATE POLICE AND WE'RE DEFUNDING DEPARTMENTS!"

So, to wrap up:

If you actually embrace the right to own firearms, you must be seconds away from a mass killing...according to "representatives" who keep forgetting that WE tell THEM what to do...

...while they are playing optics games and making us wait longer for less police.

They want us to believe there's a whacko every three feet, don't want us able to defend ourselves with similar weaponry, and are actually working to extend waits for law enforcement.

Some of y'all vote for this s**t.  Really?

Z,

I'd probably fall into the whacko, nut job left...

I get the right to carry and own..I don't believe EVERYONE in the country is entitled to that though. Too many whacko's with access to guns and fire-arms. People who have no right to own one. 

I think our country can and has to do a better job of limiting access. 

If you voted for the people pushing the above agendas, then...well, you self-selected your category.

I'm watching the left destroying Seattle, with crime spiking, criminals barely getting prosecuted and even then quickly released.

The modern left is filth, and has lost all ties with actual, classical liberalism.

As far as limiting access...first of all, I'll never agree that some elected stooge gets to tell me, someone with no violence on my record, what type of firearm or magazine I can own.  It's not their job to tell me what to do, it's our job to limit THEM.

That seems to get forgotten.

Secondly, I agree to limiting access to proven violent criminals or those with thoroughly proven mental conditions.  HOWEVER, those conditions must be based on science and not politics...and you'll never get them all.  Ask Britain, who have stabbing/slashing rampages, car bombs, illegal gun use (because gun laws mostly penalize legit users, which is something only filth can support), and other acts of violence.

People insisting on blaming the inanimate object are truly, tragically delusional.