LOL StickyBun! All will be quiet on the Sloter front soon.
Sloter sees the open receiver and delivers quickly. He may be a first read QB, I don't know. He can use his feet to get away from pressure and still find the open receiver.
He is so slight of build I doubt he would last a full season.
I think things work out the way they are supposed to. He sure has been fun to watch and I wish him luck.
Quote: @JoDakota said:
LOL StickyBun! All will be quiet on the Sloter front soon.
You hate the kid that much?
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JoDakota said:
LOL StickyBun! All will be quiet on the Sloter front soon.
You hate the kid that much?
I don't think he hates the kid, but people on both sides of this QB debate have really dug their heels in... it's gotten to the point of stupidity IMO.
I mean I feel like I'm getting lumped in with "blind Zimmer supporters" when all I've been saying is that if Sloter isn't moving up, there has to be a legitimate reason for it. And it's not that Zimmer is hard headed or doesn't like him making plays because he's too much of a gunslinger. He has some talent, that's plain to see. It has to be from the mental side of the game...
Personally, I like Sloter a lot as a developmental QB and hope he is on our final 53 this season. I do agree with you that he should have gotten some more reps against the 2's at some point this preseason, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the fact that he hasn't.
I don't know why we wouldn't keep him... Browning has done nothing to show that he deserves a longer look.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JoDakota said:
LOL StickyBun! All will be quiet on the Sloter front soon.
You hate the kid that much?
I don't think he hates the kid, but people on both sides of this QB debate have really dug their heels in... it's gotten to the point of stupidity IMO.
I mean I feel like I'm getting lumped in with "blind Zimmer supporters" when all I've been saying is that if Sloter isn't moving up, there has to be a legitimate reason for it. And it's not that Zimmer is hard headed or doesn't like him making plays because he's too much of a gunslinger. He has some talent, that's plain to see. It has to be from the mental side of the game...
Personally, I like Sloter a lot as a developmental QB and hope he is on our final 53 this season. I do agree with you that he should have gotten some more reps against the 2's at some point this preseason, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the fact that he hasn't.
I don't know why we wouldn't keep him... Browning has done nothing to show that he deserves a longer look.
It sounds to me like some are taking glee in what could be his release. I don't get that. The kid has shown nothing but moxie and IT factor that we all were impressed by until Zimmer says he had a few things to clean up, and then everyone--really not talking about this board, but more on Twitter (PA, Arif, etc)--jumped on that bandwagon as if they'd recognized those weaknesses all along. It makes me laugh.
I also think there is a mischaracterization of viewpoints here. Except for a tweet here and there, I don't know of anyone who was saying that Sloter deserved to be promoted to QB2, only that he earned and deserved a shot with the 2's. Is he a gamer? Or just someone who feasts on 3rd string talent? Some pretend to know that, but of course they don't. I really do believe that Zimmer made a mistake on not trying to find out. There were 5 or 6 QB3s in the preseason who got that opportunity. Because, hey, it's a pretty good idea.
I'm beginning to believe that Zimmer, while a brilliant defensive mind, ain't so hot at roster management and managing expectations, personalities, emotional intelligence. Rhodes comes to mind, but there are others. We draft a kicker in the 5th round. He blows a couple of kicks, Zimmer cuts him and he goes on to be one of the best kickers in the NFL. We trade for a hot, young kicker who can't miss in Baltimore. Comes here and he's Stevie Wonder. And, as if it to rub dirt in our face, the kickers the Vikings faced this preseason were 13 of 13. God, you can't write this stuff. I fear we're on the verge of another blunder with Sloter.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JoDakota said:
LOL StickyBun! All will be quiet on the Sloter front soon.
You hate the kid that much?
I don't think he hates the kid, but people on both sides of this QB debate have really dug their heels in... it's gotten to the point of stupidity IMO.
I mean I feel like I'm getting lumped in with "blind Zimmer supporters" when all I've been saying is that if Sloter isn't moving up, there has to be a legitimate reason for it. And it's not that Zimmer is hard headed or doesn't like him making plays because he's too much of a gunslinger. He has some talent, that's plain to see. It has to be from the mental side of the game...
Personally, I like Sloter a lot as a developmental QB and hope he is on our final 53 this season. I do agree with you that he should have gotten some more reps against the 2's at some point this preseason, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the fact that he hasn't.
I don't know why we wouldn't keep him... Browning has done nothing to show that he deserves a longer look.
its the VF way, you are not allowed to straddle a fence or have anything other than an extreme view, even if you try to explain your moderate position on a topic (any topic) the extremes will badger and bully you until you get pissed and make an extreme statement... and then they have you where they wanted in you in the first place.
really this whole damn ordeal isnt about anybody thinking Sloter should be starting, its just a matter of most all of us agreeing that he should be given more of a work load with better talent around him and against better opposing talent to gauge how NFL ready he really is. Zimmer slow plays so many young guys its like he has forgotten that he is coaching in the free agency era where players are free to leave if they dont feel like they are getting treated fairly.
And what so many of you fail to understand conversely is that some feel its not this gigantic injustice that Sloter isn't getting #2 reps. It isn't personal, it isn't some conspiracy, it isn't Zimmer being stubborn, it isn't dislike for Sloter, its just that its pretty obvious the staff doesn't feel he deserves them and its better served giving Mannion them.
It other words, its just a little fan drama and much ado about nothing. Which is exactly what it is. Its ok, we all root for the same team.
Don't hate him at all, as a matter of fact he has some huge upside, once he can do all the things a starting QB should do. Our coaches feel he isn't ready....that would be good enough, but somehow some Purple Haze infects some here and see gold and elevate players prematurely. My comment was meant that now preseason is over, Sloter will go back to being a developmental 3rd string QB, and the Sloter crowd will disappear.
Quote: @JoDakota said:
Don't hate him at all, as a matter of fact he has some huge upside, once he can do all the things a starting QB should do. Our coaches feel he isn't ready....that would be good enough, but somehow some Purple Haze infects some here and see gold and elevate players prematurely. My comment was meant that now preseason is over, Sloter will go back to being a developmental 3rd string QB, and the Sloter crowd will disappear.
as long as we have inferior talent at back up QB, the Sloter crowd wont go anywhere. Mannion taking a roster spot because of his ability to coach up KC is absurd when he doesnt play the position better than Sloter. I would have liked to see Sloter get about 1.5 quarters to start the game last night and then Mannion go in and work with the same group of players and then give Browning and the rest of the developmental and bubble guys the 4th quarter.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
And what so many of you fail to understand conversely is that some feel its not this gigantic injustice that Sloter isn't getting #2 reps. It isn't personal, it isn't some conspiracy, it isn't Zimmer being stubborn, it isn't dislike for Sloter, its just that its pretty obvious the staff doesn't feel he deserves them and its better served giving Mannion them.
It other words, its just a little fan drama and much ado about nothing. Which is exactly what it is. Its ok, we all root for the same team.
Fair point sticky, it isn't like Mannion has been in this offense for 10 years. He is new to the team, going to be the #2 and needs the reps to get comfortable.
I would have thought maybe Sloter could have gotten some, but I am just giving an uninformed opinion on it. Haven't seen a lick of him practice, but the coaching staff has. SO it probably does make more sense to let the kid learn for another year and get your backup the work he needs since he may be needed in an actual game.
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