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Yeah you can get these at Menards.  Garage accessories isle, popular with a lot of folk.  Looks pretty low for a door pull.

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@pumpf said:

@MaroonBells said:

@savannahskol said:

@MaroonBells said:

@Jor-El said:

Bizarre story and even more if the "noose" is simply a door pull rope that is on every single garage door and has been there for 8+ months. If that's true, how did Wallace not understand that? How did other drivers not? That's like seeing a can of gasoline in your garage, accepting it for months, and one day deciding it's a bomb planted by someone and calling the police  - and all your friends agreeing with you. If that's all it was, Wallace and all the drivers who supported him are either crazy stupid or part of some conspiracy. IDK...reading some of the further reports, there are odd comments like, "it was a noose but not a functioning noose". What does that mean?

I am still challenged to believe this was contrived by NASCAR to generate more viewership, but my main reason for disbelief is that the key information many people will take away is, "NASCAR only has 1 minority driver", which will just confirm the impression of the sport being full of hillbillies. But hey, maybe they are not trying to attract open-minded people...maybe NASCAR thinks there are some people who like the idea of a sport that is still full of white faces and is trying to draw any who aren't already fans.

Door pull ropes aren't typically nooses. The rope was fashioned into a noose by someone. 

**sigh**
Photographic evidence (that even Wallace admitted was true) revealed, that, whatever it  was...had been there for months. 
Wallace has also (belatedly, but gracefully) admitted he was NOT THE TARGET.  
What a stretch of credulity, that some want to maintain, that racism is an omnipresent/systemic reality of everyday American life.  


In fact, true racism is such an American rarity...that it has to be created out of whole cloth/thin air. 
The demand for it (racism) far supersedes the supply.  So much so, it has to be bought. 
By Smollett or the MSM.  

The only difference it makes that it was there for months is that Wallace was clearly not a specific target. Still, someone thought it was funny or clever or whatever to fashion a pull rope into a noose. I think everyone knows what a noose represents. Maybe the person who did it meant nothing by it. Maybe he's too stupid to know what it means. Maybe he knew exactly what he was doing. We'll probably never know. 

But your comment on racism in America is ignorant. Go to Fox News comments sections or Reddit or Youtube or any other site that allows "anonymous" comments on news stories, videos, etc. It's a bathroom wall of KKK-level, vile and disgusting remarks. Gone are the dog whistles and coded language that you see on more monitored forums (and the President). It's just up front, hood-off racism. 

Serious question: have you not seen the video... where they panned across multiple garage doors?  Every one of them had a "noose" hanging from it.  Are you suggesting that someone went to every rope and purposefully made it look like a noose?  Is it possible that that's just the best way to form a "loop" that won't open up when it is being pulled on constantly?

So having a noose hanging in every garage for months is your argument against that is was systemic racism?  Wallace is one of three drivers that have gone through the "NASCAR’s Drive for Diversity" program, a fourteen year endeavor, yeah it probably wasn't more than the zeitgeist of the sport and just a general statement.  Not for Wallace directly, but just something that was put out there for those who want to notice one way or another, just the purpose that a noose symbolizes, solidify or intimidate.   Your a man who walks the path, and will witnesses for anyone in earshot, sure as hell not a scientist, so should we just wait and see how this plays out, there may good folk on both sides, right.  Thoughts and prayers to you.

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@BigAl99 said:

Yeah you can get these at Menards.  Garage accessories isle, popular with a lot of folk.  Looks pretty low for a door pull.

Funny you should say Menards, as that was the NASCAR that occupied the stall the previous year  (white driver). 
Or perhaps you're suggesting something here.   

 



Yeah, it's low for a garage pull.  But it's the same 'noose'.  (different angle)
It's a low garage pull in the above pic, also.  

Are you saying the white Menard's team knew Wallace was going to get that stall, a year later?  

If this is the best ya'll can muster to prove systemic racism?

And ya'll couldn't wait a damn second to condemn a whole region of the country (the OP)....on a hoax? 

Contrast this de-bunked story, to the only black Senator, Tim Scott (R-SC) getting his police-reform legislation shot-down by northerner Chuck Schumer this week.  Not a whiff of racism, there, right?  Nooooooo……..

But these are cool, right? 












Cuz he's orange.  

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@MaroonBells said:

@Zanary said:

@MaroonBells said:

@Zanary said:

@MaroonBells said:
https://twitter.com/elleduncanESPN/statu...83778?s=20

Well, the important thing is to wait for some self-proclaimed "woke" person, strangely often a well-off female leftist, to tell everyone what a proper response is.

(this would be sarcasm, for those needing assistance)

Dude, we've been teaching you guys how to behave in a modern world for the last 50 years. If it weren't for us, you backwards-ass country fucks would still be using words like "fireman" and "stewardess," harassing women at work, bashing gays and telling racist jokes with a wink and a nod. 

We enjoy our work, but a little thanks every now and then would be nice. 

DAMN, someone had a double dose of estrogen in their gluten-free "Pretenti-Os", recently!

Understand something: you don't teach shit.  Ever.  You can't escape your own narratives, your own biases, your own stupid assumptions about anyone outside your blinders.

I guess you could pull the typical blame-dodging lefty bullshit and blame it on your parents or society...but at the end of the day, your "leet" insights are proof that your skulls are packed with your own fecal matter...and whatever is on Huffpost's op-ed pages, I suppose.  There's rarely an original thought rattling around in any of your vacuous little heads.

It is kinda hilarious, because even the people you so desperately claim to be supporting often find you both riotously funny and completely out of touch.  Regardless of whatever gender identity you and your ilk are espousing this moment, you all are determined to define the "Karens" of today.

You are the complete douche-canoes attending both BLM PRIDE marches in Che Guevara shirts...with NO CLUE how horrible that is.

You are the dribbling worshippers of Colin Kaepernick, a complete dink that champions freedom from "oppression" while wearing Fidel Castro's face on his chest.

You're the bottom-of-the-fishtank filth that claims to be "accepting"...but will shriek "RACE TRAITOR" at any person of color that doesn't full embrace your narrative(s).

You're...junk.  You are the mirror image of the worst elements of the right: just as arrogant, just as self-assured of your moral "superiority" (HAR!), and just as disinterested in freedoms outside your itsy little defintions.

Your lot have guaranteed that "bitches" will remain a gender-neutral term, because it fits y'all so well.

So...MB...understand something: you entertain me, but in ways that you'd likely find truly offensive.  I've never seen anything from you that isn't mirrored by the sheltered little twinks lecturing people hereabouts about the importance of "CHAZ/CHOP" even as the central figures involved are admitting that it failed, was hijacked, and will be wandering away from it over the coming days.

Just a hilarious bunch of self-important noise.  You're the mirror of some bible-thumping MAGA hat wearer out there...just one more replaceable judgemental, self-righteous waste of time.

Lighten up, princess. 

Bigoted remark, MB, if'n you ask me.  
Are you saying Z must be of the feminine mind-set, to take offense at your comments? 

Tsk, Tsk, and not very woke.  

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@savannahskol said:

@BigAl99 said:

Yeah you can get these at Menards.  Garage accessories isle, popular with a lot of folk.  Looks pretty low for a door pull.

Funny you should say Menards, as that was the NASCAR that occupied the stall the previous year  (white driver). 
Or perhaps you're suggesting something here.   

 



Yeah, it's low for a garage pull.  But it's the same 'noose'.  (different angle)
It's a low garage pull in the above pic, also.  

Are you saying the white Menard's team knew Wallace was going to get that stall, a year later?  

If this is the best ya'll can muster to prove systemic racism?

And ya'll couldn't wait a damn second to condemn a whole region of the country (the OP)....on a hoax? 

Contrast this de-bunked story, to the only black Senator, Tim Scott (R-SC) getting his police-reform legislation shot-down by northerner Chuck Schumer this week.  Not a whiff of racism, there, right?  Nooooooo……..

But these are cool, right? 












Cuz he's orange.  

Imagine if that effigy depicted Barack Obama...  Don't recall seeing any of those during his 8 years, do you?   Some pretty sick people on the left.   It is one thing to disagree on policy, etc; quite another to mimic a lynching.  Certainly not a way to build bridges between opposing points of view or build coalitions.

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@IDVikingfan said:

@savannahskol said:

@BigAl99 said:

Yeah you can get these at Menards.  Garage accessories isle, popular with a lot of folk.  Looks pretty low for a door pull.

Funny you should say Menards, as that was the NASCAR that occupied the stall the previous year  (white driver). 
Or perhaps you're suggesting something here.   

 



Yeah, it's low for a garage pull.  But it's the same 'noose'.  (different angle)
It's a low garage pull in the above pic, also.  

Are you saying the white Menard's team knew Wallace was going to get that stall, a year later?  

If this is the best ya'll can muster to prove systemic racism?

And ya'll couldn't wait a damn second to condemn a whole region of the country (the OP)....on a hoax? 

Contrast this de-bunked story, to the only black Senator, Tim Scott (R-SC) getting his police-reform legislation shot-down by northerner Chuck Schumer this week.  Not a whiff of racism, there, right?  Nooooooo……..

But these are cool, right? 












Cuz he's orange.  

Imagine if that effigy depicted Barack Obama...  Don't recall seeing any of those during his 8 years, do you?   Some pretty sick people on the left.   It is one thing to disagree on policy, etc; quite another to mimic a lynching.  Certainly not a way to build bridges between opposing points of view or build coalitions.

Don't have to imagine it, it was pretty out there, are you naive, or just plain blind with conformation bias.   Just use the google for
https://www.revelist.com/politics/americ...obama/5855


 Watch this sick shit.

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Speedway loses partnerships after ‘Bubba rope’ postPINE HALL, N.C.
(AP) — A North Carolina racetrack has lost some partnerships after its
owner advertised “Bubba Rope” for sale online days after NASCAR said a
noose had been found in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace, the top
series’ only Black driver.
A
concrete company and a driver series ended their partnerships Friday
with the half-mile, dirt track 311 Speedway in Stokes County, the
Winston-Salem Journal reported....
https://apnews.com/da515f054f35941e54d32d6cd316833d

Yeah fake news, no racism in racing.

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BigAl, you got me there.  I'm not a hater and don't frequent the dark side of the web.  I'm a conservative living in a conservative state.  Didn't happen here.  I personally condemn the act, no matter who is the President.  Of course, don't make a right.

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Whats real hard to find is the hanging presidential effigies in the US prior to Obama.  There is allot of G. W. Bush effigies being lynched abroad, but not here in the US.  Wonder where all this came from? 

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I'm not denying the presence of racists in this country.  I don't go searching for effigies so don't really follow the history.  I do think it is wrong (hanging/burning effigy) in any context.  I wouldn't say that the left in the US is any better than the left in Europe, probably happened here as well or similar sort treatment (just a guess).