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CEO of UnitedHealthcare murdered this morning in Manhattan
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(12-06-2024, 12:28 PM)Waterboy Wrote: Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the rest of the country has high trust in the sources that y'all used to come to your conclusions on things like masking, the vaccine, the threat to govt, etc.   If you want to live in a world that's believing political reporting out of MSM, there's not much I can do for you.  I can go to the numerous podcasters, substack, and other areas that have proven much more reliable.  I have to love that the words "proven Russian propaganda" was written above.  It doesn't get much more clueless than that or the examples you're trying to come up with.

Comrade...

...the fact that you quote constantly from pure junk sites that live off of outrage manipulation and snarling partisan hate-crack basically destroys your credibility to hack on anyone's information. ZeroHedge's first post came from a pro-Russian Bulgarian whose son, Daniel Ivandjiiski, created the site after he'd been suspended by the SEC for insider trading, and who let himself and others all post as "Tyler Durden" as the site got into far-right and pro-Russian babble.

So, again, on brand. I'm sure the Motherland is grateful for your anti-western efforts!
STRETCH RUN, VIKINGS...LET'S END THIS SEASON WITH BANGS!
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(12-06-2024, 01:04 PM)Zanary Wrote: Comrade...

...the fact that you quote constantly from pure junk sites that live off of outrage manipulation and snarling partisan hate-crack basically destroys your credibility to hack on anyone's information. ZeroHedge's first post came from a pro-Russian Bulgarian whose son, Daniel Ivandjiiski, created the site after he'd been suspended by the SEC for insider trading, and who let himself and others all post as "Tyler Durden" as the site got into far-right and pro-Russian babble.

So, again, on brand. I'm sure the Motherland is grateful for your anti-western efforts!

If you follow the MSM, you're indeed the comrade.  Different info from different sources is where you get at the truth.  Zerohedge will report things not touched by the MSM.  Some are true.  Some are not, but they do source where they get their news.  Finding the truth from there is a little tougher but ultimately rewarding.
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(12-06-2024, 01:52 PM)Waterboy Wrote: If you follow the MSM, you're indeed the comrade.  Different info from different sources is where you get at the truth.  Zerohedge will report things not touched by the MSM.  Some are true.  Some are not, but they do source where they get their news.  Finding the truth from there is a little tougher but ultimately rewarding.

Flat Earth Dave provides sources. You really need to listen to him. He makes some valid arguments. Some are true. Some are not.
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(12-06-2024, 02:06 PM)AGRforever Wrote: Flat Earth Dave provides sources. You really need to listen to him. He makes some valid arguments. Some are true. Some are not.
You're just hurting because you were wrong about shit for so long, and you're flailing.  The simple fact that you were one of the "sheeple" and bought the vaccine hook, line, and sinker shows us who the gullible one is here.   There's a bunch of similar ideology on this site that just can't get past that.  Smile
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(12-06-2024, 02:20 PM)Waterboy Wrote: You're just hurting because you were wrong about shit for so long, and you're flailing.  The simple fact that you were one of the "sheeple" and bought the vaccine hook, line, and sinker shows us who the gullible one is here.   There's a bunch of similar ideology on this site that just can't get past that.  Smile

No, I just can’t believe there’s someone walking around quoting zerohedge thinking they’re the genius.  Life has to be hard for you. I’m sorry.
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(12-06-2024, 02:44 PM)AGRforever Wrote: No, I just can’t believe there’s someone walking around quoting zerohedge thinking they’re the genius.  Life has to be hard for you. I’m sorry.

Life's pretty easy actually.  I think like people that have a brain.
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#67
Some local angles:
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Minnesota health care companies step up security

Minnetonka-based Medica temporarily closed its headquarters Friday amid a “general feeling of vulnerability and concern” as insurers faced mounting online vitriol in the wake of Thompson’s killing. UnitedHealth Group’s note of remorse about Thompson’s killing has attracted more than 83,000 laughing emoji reactions on Facebook.

A spokesperson said the company’s offices will be closed through Dec. 13, citing safety concerns that sprang up following Wednesday’s shooting. Other insurers have taken similar steps to reduce the visibility of top executives.

While Minneapolis-based UCare remains open, its front doors were locked Friday morning.

“Of course Brian Thompson’s murder — and the ensuing vitriol on social media — sent shockwaves throughout our industry,” UCare said in a statement. “We have no reason to believe there is any danger specifically to our team. At the same time, there is a general feeling of vulnerability and concern.”

Thompson’s killing has prompted companies, especially those in health care, across the country to step up security.

“It’s a wakeup call for a lot of companies,” said Glen Kucera, the New York-based president of Enhanced Protection Services, an arm of security company Allied Universal. “Unfortunately, it sometimes takes an event like this to impact change in the threat landscape.”

What we know about Brian Thompson
Thompson lived in Maple Grove. His wife, Paulette, works as a physical therapist with HealthPartners. They have two teenage sons, 19 and 16.

Thompson worked at UnitedHealthcare for 20 years and was named its CEO in 2021. The Minnesota Star Tribune reported this year that Thompson was among the state’s top-paid executives with a total compensation of $9.1 million.

Both Thompson and his wife graduated from the University of Iowa, where he got a bachelor’s degree in business administration in 1997. He graduated with special honors.

While Thompson wasn’t well-known to his neighbors — one said he was “very quiet” and another said “no one really knew him” on the block — his killing shook co-workers and local business leaders.

He was known as a champion for UnitedHealthcare’s support of the Special Olympics and an advocate for American Sign Language access across health care.

“Brian was a principled leader and a true champion in the healthcare community,” Roberta Antoine Dressen, CEO of local trade group Medical Alley, said in a statement.

UnitedHealthcare is one of Minnesota’s largest employers

UnitedHealthcare is the largest insurer in the U.S. It’s owned by Minnetonka-based UnitedHealth Group, which employs more than 400,000 people. It’s Minnesota’s 10th-largest employer — approximately 19,000 of its employees are stationed here.

The company has its roots in the development of the health maintenance organization model of health care pioneered by Dr. Paul Ellwood in the 1960s and ‘70s.

UnitedHealthcare has been criticized by media and elected officials because of the way the company reviews and denies requests and claims for medical care. The U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations announced in October that UnitedHealthcare and two other major Medicare insurers inflated profits by denying seniors stays in care facilities while they recovered from injuries and illnesses.

The company went from denying 10.9% of cases in 2020 to 22.7% in 2022, according to a report from the subcommittee. Minnesota lawmakers barred UnitedHealthcare and other HMOs from the state’s Medicaid program earlier this year.

Source: Startribune


Medica closes HQ as Minn. insurers bolster worker safety after UnitedHealthcare CEO’s murder

Amid a “general feeling of vulnerability and concern,” Medica shuts HQ after shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

As the manhunt continued for the killer of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO, Minnetonka-based Medica said it has temporarily closed its headquarters and other health plans described safety precautions as anger at insurers has swelled online this week.

A Medica spokesman said safety concerns following Wednesday’s shooting of United chief executive Brian Thompson prompted the health plan to close its offices through Dec. 13. Insurers and other industries across the country are taking steps to reduce the visibility of top executives following the fatal ambush in New York City.

Company headquarters are remaining open at Minneapolis-based UCare, but the insurer’s front door is now locked.

“Of course Brian Thompson’s murder — and the ensuing vitriol on social media — sent shockwaves throughout our industry,” UCare said in a statement. “We have no reason to believe there is any danger specifically to our team. At the same time, there is a general feeling of vulnerability and concern.”

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Gee...I wonder who will pay the cost for all the added security measures???
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(12-06-2024, 04:29 PM)Vanguard83 Wrote: Gee...I wonder who will pay the cost for all the added security measures???

Our homeowners, Auto and Long Term Care Insurance rates are up double digit the last 3+ years. 

Its ridiculous and MN has been one of the hardest hit states along with FL.
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(12-06-2024, 04:29 PM)Vanguard83 Wrote: Gee...I wonder who will pay the cost for all the added security measures???

UHC found one simple trick to save $10.2M.
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