You want to talk DeSantis?

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@Skodin said:

  40% of Americans have some belief that the 2020 election was stolen outright in a 2022 Axios poll.  While you won't see a bunch of follow-up polls, it is obvious that many more Americans believe that the media slants far left in both the mainstream and social medias.  I term that as Voter Fraud, though technically it's a less obvious, more sinister issue.  But, to answer your above question...  No, mail in balloting is rife with fraud.  Dinesh D'Souza showed live video of individuals car routes and placing multiple ballots in Mail In Boxes in the swing states that swung the election.  The mainstream and social medias have done everything in their arsenal to avoid this being seen by the public.  Your media failed to even address it and just called it debunked (much like Hunter's laptop, lol) If Americans can't get off their dead asses to walk 1-2 blocks to vote, then they probably shouldn't.


  

BTW 47% of Americans believe that a mythical white (but not white man) Jesus is coming back.  Americans for the most part (because of poor education systems) are stupid 

Way to prove the idiocy surrounding your views.  More than 50% supposedly voted for a guy that cant find his way from Air Force One to the White House, shits his pants daily, and has dementia.  If you dont have religious belief, thats your choice, but i honestly feel sorry for you. You sound like a very lost person in general. 

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I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

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@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

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@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

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@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

Biden has no power,  he is a puppet for somebody else,  thats why he keeps tripping,  it probably pretty hard to walk with somebodies hand up your ass controlling your actions.

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At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.

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@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.

why does it have to be a third party candidate for some?  why cant a candidate run as a red or blue team candidate and get your vote based on their merits as a candidate?  I know we all want to see a viable third party, but honestly they have about zero chance so anybody that really wanted a legit shot is going to run as a dem or a republican IMO just based on being able to get on ballots and get publicity nation wide.

I have a friend who is a conservative democrat,  got elected to the house as a dem,  couldnt get a damn thing accomplished,  flipped to a republican and got re-elected and is making good legislation as a result,  same man, same plan,  just wore a different color tie,  the same would likely go for anybody that would be a legit 3rd party candidate for president.

honestly I think its going to take a major secession from already elected officials to every get that 3rd party established.  a large and diverse enough group of both moderate dems and repubs to every get a third party off the ground.

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@JimmyinSD said:

@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.

why does it have to be a third party candidate for some?  why cant a candidate run as a red or blue team candidate and get your vote based on their merits as a candidate?  I know we all want to see a viable third party, but honestly they have about zero chance so anybody that really wanted a legit shot is going to run as a dem or a republican IMO just based on being able to get on ballots and get publicity nation wide.

I have a friend who is a conservative democrat,  got elected to the house as a dem,  couldnt get a damn thing accomplished,  flipped to a republican and got re-elected and is making good legislation as a result,  same man, same plan,  just wore a different color tie,  the same would likely go for anybody that would be a legit 3rd party candidate for president.

honestly I think its going to take a major secession from already elected officials to every get that 3rd party established.  a large and diverse enough group of both moderate dems and repubs to every get a third party off the ground.

It doesn’t have to be 3rd party. I was a huge Ron Paul guy. I think Vivek Ramaswamy is worthy of my vote. He’s significantly more bullish on foreign policy then I care for, but theres not going to be anyone doveish enough for me. 

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OK, folks, seriously:

The complete dumpster fires that are the GOP and DNC have us, through their combined efforts, over $30 trillion in debt, the country (tragically, foolishly, needlessly) divided into a "us vs. them" moron-a-thon that simply leads to MORE debt, MORE division, and...oh, yeah, the losing side absolutely insisting that anything but their victory was absolute crime/cheating since at least 2000.

I forgot the bonus: people like myself, who won't support either treason club, being told by the whiners in the losing collective each time that it was OUR fault that their divisive personality cultist lost.  That's fuggin' inevitable.

Why is any functional person still supporting either camp, and why would they object to more choices, more parties, when we're talking about a country of over 300 million people...most of which do NOT identify in either "major" traitor category?  How is that bad, or unreasonable?

Btw, to anyone with gluteus discomfort over the "treason" remarks...you're supporting two parties that have us in huge debt, are horrible at getting us into/out of wars, play our public against each other, marginalize the rights the country is based on, and frankly have been playing y'all for many generations.  The proof is very obvious, while it's likely uncomfortable.

Admitting the problem is the first step, folks.

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@Waterboy said:

@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

That's not how nuclear wars start.