Another day another mass murder in Amerika...

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@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

I actually did the math instead of believing the bullshit media driven narrative that you and many liberals have bought. Based off the numbers, this "woe is me" black people are dying at the hand of police at a significantly higher rate is shit from a bull's backside.  Based on the crime statistics they pretty much line right up with what anyone who objectively looks at the data would conclude. In fact if you wanted a clickbait headline you could write: Whites who commit violent crime are 20% more likely to die at the hands of police then their African American counterparts. 

The best advice anyone could give is don't commit crime.  If you aren't interacting with the police your chance at being shot goes significantly down. 

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

I actually did the math instead of believing the bullshit media driven narrative that you and many liberals have bought. Based off the numbers, this "woe is me" black people are dying at the hand of police at a significantly higher rate is shit from a bull's backside.  Based on the crime statistics they pretty much line right up with what anyone who objectively looks at the data would conclude. In fact if you wanted a clickbait headline you could write: Whites who commit violent crime are 20% more likely to die at the hands of police then their African American counterparts. 

The best advice anyone could give is don't commit crime.  If you aren't interacting with the police your chance at being shot goes significantly down. 

Or at least if your interactions aren't balanced on having little to lose because the of the nature of the crime.

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

I actually did the math instead of believing the bullshit media driven narrative that you and many liberals have bought. Based off the numbers, this "woe is me" black people are dying at the hand of police at a significantly higher rate is shit from a bull's backside.  Based on the crime statistics they pretty much line right up with what anyone who objectively looks at the data would conclude. In fact if you wanted a clickbait headline you could write: Whites who commit violent crime are 20% more likely to die at the hands of police then their African American counterparts. 

The best advice anyone could give is don't commit crime.  If you aren't interacting with the police your chance at being shot goes significantly down. 

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

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@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

No offense but I don't see anywhere that the author of the Forbes article is a phd in anything.  He just "enjoys writing" per his bio. Now if you have the numbers behind his chart behind the paywall, I'm all ears.

If you think I've come to the wrong conclusion state your case.   Why shouldn't crime rate, especially violent crime rate, factor into police shootings?

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

No offense but I don't see anywhere that the author of the Forbes article is a phd in anything.  He just "enjoys writing" per his bio. Now if you have the numbers behind his chart behind the paywall, I'm all ears.

If you think I've come to the wrong conclusion state your case.   Why shouldn't crime rate, especially violent crime rate, factor into police shootings?

It appears he isn't interested in dealing with facts or rational discussion.  Once the argument turns to gaslighting, insulting, and typical internet debate techniques, they are admitting they have lost.

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@greediron said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

No offense but I don't see anywhere that the author of the Forbes article is a phd in anything.  He just "enjoys writing" per his bio. Now if you have the numbers behind his chart behind the paywall, I'm all ears.

If you think I've come to the wrong conclusion state your case.   Why shouldn't crime rate, especially violent crime rate, factor into police shootings?

It appears he isn't interested in dealing with facts or rational discussion.  Once the argument turns to gaslighting, insulting, and typical internet debate techniques, they are admitting they have lost.

Do you have a phd to back that up?  Or did ypu just stay at a holiday inn?

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@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

No offense but I don't see anywhere that the author of the Forbes article is a phd in anything.  He just "enjoys writing" per his bio. Now if you have the numbers behind his chart behind the paywall, I'm all ears.

If you think I've come to the wrong conclusion state your case.   Why shouldn't crime rate, especially violent crime rate, factor into police shootings?

It appears he isn't interested in dealing with facts or rational discussion.  Once the argument turns to gaslighting, insulting, and typical internet debate techniques, they are admitting they have lost.

Do you have a phd to back that up?  Or did ypu just stay at a holiday inn?

Internet debate PHD.  Piled Higher and Deeper.

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@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

			White  Black Hispanic 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% White  Black Hispanic 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% White  Black 236,590 151,744 58.53% 37.54% 1.01% 0.83% White  Black 1,750,366 700,984 68.89% 27.59% 0.14% 0.18%

Yeah your excel cyphering skills are breathtaking, and you have made a real impression.  To think it took a Phd. all those words and table to discuss his results, and you, an expert with a bulls backside can select a few numbers from his discussion and prove him wrong, BRILLIANT.  Thank you for displaying intellectual prowess, and I will consider this analysis QED.  Thanks for your time.

No offense but I don't see anywhere that the author of the Forbes article is a phd in anything.  He just "enjoys writing" per his bio. Now if you have the numbers behind his chart behind the paywall, I'm all ears.

If you think I've come to the wrong conclusion state your case.   Why shouldn't crime rate, especially violent crime rate, factor into police shootings?

It appears he isn't interested in dealing with facts or rational discussion.  Once the argument turns to gaslighting, insulting, and typical internet debate techniques, they are admitting they have lost.

Do you have a phd to back that up?  Or did ypu just stay at a holiday inn?

Sorry I was thinking of the author of the paper you provided, last night. 

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

 I still find your analysis a non sequitur, and that my opinion.  What's the Holiday inn comment mean? 

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@BigAl99 said:

 I still find your analysis a non sequitur, and that my opinion.  What's the Holiday inn comment mean? 

@BigAl99 said:

Yes I judged by his appearance, was I wrong?  Do you think the police knew his name and nationality or were they just going by looks in the heat of the moment?   Statistically you only have news organizations keeping track, Police do not and will not, keep a database to analyze for this information.  But from the numbers I have looked at, news organizations, it's between 2.5 to 2.7 times, white ~ 12 deaths per million vs 22 Hispanic and 30 for Black, deaths per million.  My comment was that in the last week two out of two mass murders survived their apprehension.  Pure and simple.  

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@Zanary said:
So, here's the "logic" I've been getting from the left for years, now:

"THERE'S A WHACKO GUN NUT WITH AN AR-15 BEHIND EVERY TREE! WE NEED TO TAKE YOUR, OOPS, THEIR GUNS!"

"YOU NEED TO LET THE GUBMINT HAVE ALL THE GUNS, AS WE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!"

'OH, AND SORRY POLICE REACTION TIMES ARE GETTING SLOWER, IT'S FASHIONABLE TO HATE POLICE AND WE'RE DEFUNDING DEPARTMENTS!"

So, to wrap up:

If you actually embrace the right to own firearms, you must be seconds away from a mass killing...according to "representatives" who keep forgetting that WE tell THEM what to do...

...while they are playing optics games and making us wait longer for less police.

They want us to believe there's a whacko every three feet, don't want us able to defend ourselves with similar weaponry, and are actually working to extend waits for law enforcement.

Some of y'all vote for this s**t.  Really?

Z,

I'd probably fall into the whacko, nut job left...

I get the right to carry and own..I don't believe EVERYONE in the country is entitled to that though. Too many whacko's with access to guns and fire-arms. People who have no right to own one. 

I think our country can and has to do a better job of limiting access.