Must be in the 1 of 10 group that found it offensive.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new...story.html
The Navajo Nation put out a statement on the retirement of the Redskins name.
“July 13, 2020 is now a historic day for all Indigenous peoples around the world as the NFL Washington-based team officially announced the retirement of the racist and disparaging “Redskins” team name and logo,” Navajo Nation President Jonathan Nez wrote. “This change did not come about willingly by the team’s owners, but by the mounting pressure and advocacy of Indigenous peoples such as Amanda Blackhorse, and many other warriors who fought long and hard for this change.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews...e-logo.amp
So is he suggesting warriors as a replacement?
Sounds like the son of the Native American man who created the logo isn't happy about the logo changing.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Lance Wetzel, son of Walter who created the logo said it "evokes pride in Native
Americans" and shouldn't be considered offensive. He does seem to favor changing the name, but not the logo.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
Lance Wetzel, son of Walter who created the logo said it "evokes pride in Native
Americans" and shouldn't be considered offensive. He does seem to favor changing the name, but not the logo.
I understand that. But maybe a guy who designed the logo might be a little biased about it, you know what I mean? Its a legacy thing. And from what I've read and I grew up with an Indian reservation right next to my elementary/high school with Indians integrated is they didn't like the name so much. All the other kids called them 'redskins' and it wasn't in a good way.
"Hi, my Dad made the logo.....I'm not happy about the change" is like "My son would never kill all of those sorority girls!"....well he did Mrs. Bundy.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
Lance Wetzel, son of Walter who created the logo said it "evokes pride in Native
Americans" and shouldn't be considered offensive. He does seem to favor changing the name, but not the logo.
I understand that. But maybe a guy who designed the logo might be a little biased about it, you know what I mean? Its a legacy thing. And from what I've read and I grew up with an Indian reservation right next to my elementary/high school with Indians integrated is they didn't like the name so much. All the other kids called them 'redskins' and it wasn't in a good way.
"Hi, my Dad made the logo.....I'm not happy about the change" is like "My son would never kill all of those sorority girls!"....well he did Mrs. Bundy.
Agreed, he is biased. But he is also native american and said it evokes pride. Just sharing that tidbit.
As to the name, one good friend in college was a ND Native American and the Redskins were his favorite team for obvious reasons. But yes, calling someone a name probably is meant in a negative way. Just like calling someone a wolf or a bear has negative connotations.
I don't care about the name of that team. I did care about the Fighting Sioux. 2 of the tribes in ND wanted to keep the name, but one tribe (or some very vocal members) didn't. So why didn't we care about the 2 tribes that voted to keep it?
Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
Lance Wetzel, son of Walter who created the logo said it "evokes pride in Native
Americans" and shouldn't be considered offensive. He does seem to favor changing the name, but not the logo.
I understand that. But maybe a guy who designed the logo might be a little biased about it, you know what I mean? Its a legacy thing. And from what I've read and I grew up with an Indian reservation right next to my elementary/high school with Indians integrated is they didn't like the name so much. All the other kids called them 'redskins' and it wasn't in a good way.
"Hi, my Dad made the logo.....I'm not happy about the change" is like "My son would never kill all of those sorority girls!"....well he did Mrs. Bundy.
Agreed, he is biased. But he is also native american and said it evokes pride. Just sharing that tidbit.
As to the name, one good friend in college was a ND Native American and the Redskins were his favorite team for obvious reasons. But yes, calling someone a name probably is meant in a negative way. Just like calling someone a wolf or a bear has negative connotations.
I don't care about the name of that team. I did care about the Fighting Sioux. 2 of the tribes in ND wanted to keep the name, but one tribe (or some very vocal members) didn't. So why didn't we care about the 2 tribes that voted to keep it?
Pretty sure those NA calling for the name change are a vocal minority. I have known plenty of NA friends who were fans of teams that used NA symbols or names.
Normal course of biz? Or is something really stinky about to get the public spotlight shined on it?
Report: Beth Wilkinson Hired to Review Washington NFL Team's CultureThe Washington football team has hired attorney Beth Wilkinson to review the team's protocols and "conduct a deep dive into the organization's past culture," according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
It comes after Director of Pro Personnel Alex Santos and Assistant Director of Pro Personnel Richard Mann II were both fired earlier this week, per Ben Standig and Rhiannon Walker of The Athletic. Both front office executives had been with the organization for over 10 years.
As Schefter noted, the Washington Post is preparing a story on the organization's culture.
This comes amid significant changes for the franchise, including the recent announcement it will officially change the team's name after more than 80 years.
The Washington Post reported minority owners Fred Smith, Dwight Schar and Robert Rothman are also looking to sell their shares in the team, a total that combines for about a 40 percent stake.
Wilkinson will now have a role in the organization after a long career in Washington D.C. as a defense attorney. She worked within the U.S. Justice Department and recently took part in notable cases involving Brett Kavanaugh and Michael Flynn.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2900...ce=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Normal course of biz? Or is something really stinky about to get the public spotlight shined on it?
Report: Beth Wilkinson Hired to Review Washington NFL Team's CultureThe Washington football team has hired attorney Beth Wilkinson to review the team's protocols and "conduct a deep dive into the organization's past culture," according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
It comes after Director of Pro Personnel Alex Santos and Assistant Director of Pro Personnel Richard Mann II were both fired earlier this week, per Ben Standig and Rhiannon Walker of The Athletic. Both front office executives had been with the organization for over 10 years.
As Schefter noted, the Washington Post is preparing a story on the organization's culture.
This comes amid significant changes for the franchise, including the recent announcement it will officially change the team's name after more than 80 years.
The Washington Post reported minority owners Fred Smith, Dwight Schar and Robert Rothman are also looking to sell their shares in the team, a total that combines for about a 40 percent stake.
Wilkinson will now have a role in the organization after a long career in Washington D.C. as a defense attorney. She worked within the U.S. Justice Department and recently took part in notable cases involving Brett Kavanaugh and Michael Flynn.
or is a molehill about to be named a mountain?
Snyder is gonna get 86'd as an owner IMHO. He's a turd and other NFL owners are tired of it.
20 years of dysfunction as an organization, is anyone really surprised the truth is coming out?
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