Parsons traded to the Pack...

[Zanary]

The Packers were (are) more than 1 player away, and no amount of Micah's work could make Dallas truly relevant during his time there.

This isn't good news, but the picks and money spent by a desperate Green Bay may be great news for us over the next few seasons.

[comet52]

@Chicago_Jay1

The Green Bay Packers were a blocked field goal away from going 0-6 in the NFC North. I promise you they were not a Micah Parsons away. 

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Anyone know if the Packer win total o/u has gone up since the news? Got to be a way to profit off this media hype.

I think they opened 9.5 but right now I see various lines.  Alt lines at 8.5, 10.5 and even a 12 are out there but the ml pricing isn't going to give one any edge.  A player move like this might be worth half a game, although books these days don't like to hang whole number totals so they'll just leave it at 9.5 and move the money, you'll pay a price to go over.  I'm seeing o9.5 -165 at one book for example.

The bigger move that's happened is their SB odds dropped from around 20-1 to around 12-1.

[purplefaithful]

I get back to Jordan Love...

If he has a break-out type season and ends-up elite?

Then Parsons on the Pack roster is very tough indeed...But if Love is game manager type? Parsons will help, but Pack aint going to re-boot Favre/White era again..

Trust me on this...That's what everyone in the GB office and fans in Appleton and Green Bay are twiddling their nuts over this am.

This is taking that kinda swing - a big one!

[JR44]

I've heard people say this about Danielle Hunter too. "He disappears." EVERY edge rusher disappears for stretches based on scheme, opponent and game plan. 

Jonathan Greenard, Pro Bowler and maybe the best Vikings free agent acquisition in the last several years, had 9 games last year without a sack. 10 if you include the playoff game against the Rams. 

Is Parsons overpaid? Definitely. Is he overrated and will this eventually hurt the Packers? Probably. Are the Vikings still better than the Packers? I think so. 

But did the Packers just get better and did the North just get tougher for the Vikings? Without a doubt.

I don't think it is a matter of disappearing, but more of a making a difference in the game other than the splash plays, do they contain the edge, are they getting consistent pressure forcing the QB to have to force the ball, those are the plays that an edge has a much bigger impact on the game than the sacks.  I liked Hunter, but I didn't think he always had an impact on the game.  I feel like Greenard and Van Ginkel impact the game on a consistent level and not just with the sacks, they apply pressure, they contain the edge, they make others on the defense better and they bring a fire to the defense.  

Are the Packers better - I think losing Clark is highly understated, he was a huge force on their defense and a difference maker.  With the money they paying Parsons they are losing a lot of cap flexibility.  I think he makes them marginally better this year, but not in the long run.

[StickierBuns]

I get back to Jordan Love...

If he has a break-out type season and ends-up elite?

This is probably what it will boil down to, Love.

The national media is 100% convinced the Packer's roster 'is loaded with YOUNG talent!'....its what they drone on and on about. And they make the assumption that Love is already a franchise QB: these are the assumptions baked into all of their love for GB. What a pragmatist would say is two years ago they won 9 games and then last year 11. Is this a team on the come?

[greediron]

$47M per year for Parsons and $55 per year for Love.  If I were guessing, I'd say Packers gave (2) 1st round draft picks that can fill holes relatively inexpensively.  We'll see how this plays out in Titletown.

Yep, lots of capital in draft and $$s.  They are all in this year with a mediocre QB and now a edge guy that doesn't know the scheme or team.  He will be disruptive, but we paid a lot for our O-Line, we should be able to mitigate his effect.

[purplefaithful]

This is probably what it will boil down to, Love.

The national media is 100% convinced the Packer's roster 'is loaded with YOUNG talent!'....its what they drone on and on about. And they make the assumption that Love is already a franchise QB: these are the assumptions baked into all of their love for GB. What a pragmatist would say is two years ago they won 9 games and then last year 11. Is this a team on the come?

LaFleur is a good coach too...Gets whiny, but a good coach.

Bar is set, expectations are sky high; IF this doesnt get them another Favre/White glory era? 

Then (it may not be a fail), but then it didnt pay out like they had hoped.

I am for sure rooting for Lions Wk1 now.

[Montana Tom]

This is one of the more interesting Chicken Little threads I've read in some time. The sky is falling, no it isn't. The sky is green, no it isn't, it's blue.

Some observations:
He's played for the Cowboys for 4 seasons. They made the playoffs 3 of those years as a Wild Card team, going 1-3. They never advanced further than the Divisional Round.
Dak Prescott > Jordan Love
The Packers are the first team in NFL history to devote over $100mm to only two players.
Giving up two firsts and Kenny Clark (past-prime) smacks a bit of our side of the Herschel Walker trade. Just a bit.
Taking on a $188 million ($136 million guaranteed) obligation (and that still only makes Parsons the third highest cap space on the roster, after Love and Gary), is a healthy obligation.
The top 6 players on the Packers roster (after the Parsons trade, including all players with a $10mm cap hit or greater), comprise 44.25% of the total cap hit. Seems top heavy.
By comparison, the top 6 players on the Vikings roster (also all over $10mm cap hit each), comprises 36.48% of the total cap hit. Seems more balanced.
After the Parsons trade, the Packers have $3.2mm in cap space, and no first round picks until 2028.
By comparison, after the Thielen trade / signing, the Vikings have $17mm in cap space.

Like they say...there is a reason they don't award championships on paper.

[StickierBuns]

This is one of the more interesting Chicken Little threads I've read in some time.  The sky is falling, no it isn't.  The sky is green, no it isn't, it's blue.

Some observations:
He's played for the Cowboys for 4 seasons. They made the playoffs 3 of those years as a Wild Card team, going 1-3. They never advanced further than the Divisional Round.
Dak Prescott > Jordan Love
The Packers are the first team in NFL history to devote over $100mm to only two players.
Giving up two firsts and Kenny Clark (past-prime) smacks a bit of our side of the Herschel Walker trade.  Just a bit.
Taking on a $188 million ($136 million guaranteed) obligation (and that still only makes Parsons the third highest cap space on the roster, after Love and Gary), is a healthy obligation.
The top 6 players on the Packers roster (after the Parsons trade, including all players with a $10mm cap hit or greater), comprise 44.25% of the total cap hit.  Seems top heavy.
By comparison, the top 6 players on the Vikings roster (also all over $10mm cap hit each), comprises 36.48% of the total cap hit.  Seems more balanced.
After the Parsons trade, the Packers have $3.2mm in cap space, and no first round picks until 2028.
By comparison, after the Thielen trade / signing, the Vikings have $17mm in cap space.

Like they say...there is a reason they don't award championships on paper.

I don't see this as a 'Chicken Little' thread at all. The logic that because Dallas didn't win a championship with Parsons, hence he's not a great player worth the trade is ludicrous. Its like saying Dan Marino is garbage because he never won a Superbowl or Barry Sanders.  
If GB is a team on the come before, this only makes them better. Cap space only matters if you hit on the players you spend money on, same with the Draft and 1st round picks. Actualization over potential.

My take is I see a bunch of people rationalizing and doing mental gymnastics why this won't move the needle for Green Bay. I find that silly. To what degree it does is what is yet to be determined, but its not like the Packers don't have talent. They drafted a DT in round 1 they are very excited about, he's going to start. And what are the odds of say a first round selection at #28 or #29 and then the following year another first round draft pick at #29 or #30 being a guaranteed success? Much lower than if they selected top 10 without a doubt. That's what Dallas will be getting. Conversely, GB picked up a 26 year old defensive force with 52.5 sacks in four years. Its a big swing for the Packers, with risk inherent. Everyone in the NFC is gunning for Philadelphia, we saw what they did to KC in the Superbowl.

[hogjowlsjohnny]

This doesn't bother me so much. Love is over rated and the Vikings will be able to run against Parsons. He's a pass run specialist but not great against the run. A lot of these fast guys can track down the runner if you try to run away from them, but not if you run right at them. I think the Vikings will be successful running right at him.