Quote: @AGRforever said:
I was watching Medal of Honor on netflix last night. Obama gave the induction speech for one of the guys. I lamented about how we used to have politicians that could spit out coherent sentences.
If Trump is all the Republicans can muster, I'll vote for Biden.
Because he's a Master Orator? lol
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ savannahskol said:
Polls are but a snap-shot in time.
That said, I believe Skodin is correct in that Trump will be the GOP nominee.
538 (Nate Silver, et al), spectacularly WRONG in the 2016 prexy election....pretty much nailed the 2020 election.
Latest 538 polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
Trump leads DeSantis 59% - 34%.
Trump beats Biden, by 1% (here we go again)
So if "today's snap-shot" is accurate, Trumpers should be buoyed.
With everything since election night 2020, (losing close election, 1/6 MSM media beating, lawsuits) Trump is in remarkably good shape.
Also, with the further cognitive decline/gaffes coming from Biden, that will only benefit Trump.
I was (originally, 2016), not a Trump guy.
When Trump stormed the South on Super Tuesday, and beat Cruz (my guy)...I became a believer.
Trump's surprising win & first two years as America's most conservative President (Heritage Foundation), solidified my belief. https://www.heritage.org/impact/heritage-analysis-trump-administrations-first-year-draws-high-profile-attention
Trump's second half of his Presidency, languished.
Mostly due to Covid/Fauci/lockdowns...but also a shift away from "the Wall"/immigration.
Ultimately, that shift away & Democrat covid-election out-maneuvering, won the 2020 election-day. (I'm not saying the election was stolen).
Once legislatures declare winners (national/state)....courts are LOATHE to interject/overturn.
So...if we can believe 538, we're in for another razor-tight.
Trump could make inroads over 2020, with a minority pick for VP. (Tim Scott/Nikki Haley....but we already own South Carolina. Will a black from a swing-state be picked?
My pick for Trump, John James, Mich.)
But, imo...that won't make up nearly the difference in Dem votes illegally streaming over the border, changing the electorate, forever.
(Yeah, illegal/latinos are increasingly somewhat conservative "family values"...but they're overwhelmingly traditionally Dem voters)
Trump is a (one-off?) candidate for the GOP. DeSantis, is not. (Plenty of white southern men)
One-off, means a GOP white candidate (Trump) that (somehow) connects with poor white/black/latino in record (if not majorit) numbers, that most GOP'ers, do not connect with.
Ultimately, I stand by my earlier prediction, that the GOP doesn't ever win a Prexy election, forever. Demographics.
Trump might be the last to do it again (2024), but I doubt it, despite 538's current prediction.
GOP will win many local/state elections, but will never hold majorities nationally.
The "division", will only get worse.
I find it amusing that many liberals now openly admit massive voter fraud, but try to legitimize it. Yet, Trump and Jan 6ers should be thrown in jail for dare questioning things. People are witnessing a coup in broad daylight, and many are rooting it on.
Which liberals are openly admitting massive voter fraud? The only person who has admitted voter fraud was the TEXAS AG Paxton stating they blocked the mail in ballots to stop 2.5 million (MSA of Houston) from voting. "and we blocked everyone of them". How American of him
But don't listen to me, listen to Donald who stated if they gave the people the voting access they were asking for, you know TO FUCKING VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY (WHICH IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT), Republicans wouldn't win another election.
He's right, the GOP is a dying party of bad ideas. When your platform is:
Telling people what they can read
What they can say
Who they can love
Where you can shop
When you get to start a family
You are not the party of freedom
Only fools believe that this country is being run by Biden. Only fools believe the mail in ballots are not being harvested. Only fools believe these magic turnarounds late at night are anything but fraud. Only idiots believe our country is better for this shit. Orange man ran a good country. George Soros does not.
well that was a response. not a coherent one, but still a response.
what is it like to be disregarded by your peers all the time for your opinions? probably pretty painful.
I feel sorry for you
I find it funny that you think somehow most don't agree with me on everything I've said. It shows that you're the out of touch one. Even a large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud and incompetence that has overtaken our govt. Many substantiate it by saying Trump did it too. Only one difference, Trump was thoroughly investigated by numerous in power that loathed him and nothing was found. Much has been found on Biden, but the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and every other agency charged with keeping him in check are actively complicit in letting him off the hook. I would love to see Biden's finances gone through as thoroughly as the Orange Man's and see what would really show up. lol But, people like you can't even be intellectually honest with yourself, so it's a fool's errand to try, much less care. At the end of the day, people that have voted like you are the reason this country is failing in most every dimension since the senile one got in office. I don't think the world "president" really applies when the guy doesn't know his own title 90% of the time. Just wondering if you think voter fraud has really not increased significantly since Covid and the Mail In Ballots that are counted three weeks after the elections are over. You really want to tell me that you don't think that system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.? If you don't, you live on another planet.
Quote: @badgervike said:
@ AGRforever said:
I was watching Medal of Honor on netflix last night. Obama gave the induction speech for one of the guys. I lamented about how we used to have politicians that could spit out coherent sentences.
If Trump is all the Republicans can muster, I'll vote for Biden.
Because he's a Master Orator? lol
Because I can’t stand Trump. I can’t stand looking at or listening to him. At least Biden has largely STFU.
I am genuinely hopeful that we’ll end up with a decent candidate and Trump will not run 3rd party.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ badgervike said:
@ AGRforever said:
I was watching Medal of Honor on netflix last night. Obama gave the induction speech for one of the guys. I lamented about how we used to have politicians that could spit out coherent sentences.
If Trump is all the Republicans can muster, I'll vote for Biden.
Because he's a Master Orator? lol
Because I can’t stand Trump. I can’t stand looking at or listening to him. At least Biden has largely STFU.
I am genuinely hopeful that we’ll end up with a decent candidate and Trump will not run 3rd party.
I was just messin' with you. We're both 3rd party guys. I'll likely vote that way again in 2024. I'm just the opposite of you. I can't stand listening to either one of them but it's pretty undeniable, however, the Country was much better off during the Trump years vs the Biden years. My friend (a Democrat) described the Biden years perfectly. They need to lay out policy issues for him to decide...and do the exact opposite of what he decides. The Country would likely be in a better place.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ savannahskol said:
Polls are but a snap-shot in time.
That said, I believe Skodin is correct in that Trump will be the GOP nominee.
538 (Nate Silver, et al), spectacularly WRONG in the 2016 prexy election....pretty much nailed the 2020 election.
Latest 538 polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
Trump leads DeSantis 59% - 34%.
Trump beats Biden, by 1% (here we go again)
So if "today's snap-shot" is accurate, Trumpers should be buoyed.
With everything since election night 2020, (losing close election, 1/6 MSM media beating, lawsuits) Trump is in remarkably good shape.
Also, with the further cognitive decline/gaffes coming from Biden, that will only benefit Trump.
I was (originally, 2016), not a Trump guy.
When Trump stormed the South on Super Tuesday, and beat Cruz (my guy)...I became a believer.
Trump's surprising win & first two years as America's most conservative President (Heritage Foundation), solidified my belief. https://www.heritage.org/impact/heritage-analysis-trump-administrations-first-year-draws-high-profile-attention
Trump's second half of his Presidency, languished.
Mostly due to Covid/Fauci/lockdowns...but also a shift away from "the Wall"/immigration.
Ultimately, that shift away & Democrat covid-election out-maneuvering, won the 2020 election-day. (I'm not saying the election was stolen).
Once legislatures declare winners (national/state)....courts are LOATHE to interject/overturn.
So...if we can believe 538, we're in for another razor-tight.
Trump could make inroads over 2020, with a minority pick for VP. (Tim Scott/Nikki Haley....but we already own South Carolina. Will a black from a swing-state be picked?
My pick for Trump, John James, Mich.)
But, imo...that won't make up nearly the difference in Dem votes illegally streaming over the border, changing the electorate, forever.
(Yeah, illegal/latinos are increasingly somewhat conservative "family values"...but they're overwhelmingly traditionally Dem voters)
Trump is a (one-off?) candidate for the GOP. DeSantis, is not. (Plenty of white southern men)
One-off, means a GOP white candidate (Trump) that (somehow) connects with poor white/black/latino in record (if not majorit) numbers, that most GOP'ers, do not connect with.
Ultimately, I stand by my earlier prediction, that the GOP doesn't ever win a Prexy election, forever. Demographics.
Trump might be the last to do it again (2024), but I doubt it, despite 538's current prediction.
GOP will win many local/state elections, but will never hold majorities nationally.
The "division", will only get worse.
I find it amusing that many liberals now openly admit massive voter fraud, but try to legitimize it. Yet, Trump and Jan 6ers should be thrown in jail for dare questioning things. People are witnessing a coup in broad daylight, and many are rooting it on.
Which liberals are openly admitting massive voter fraud? The only person who has admitted voter fraud was the TEXAS AG Paxton stating they blocked the mail in ballots to stop 2.5 million (MSA of Houston) from voting. "and we blocked everyone of them". How American of him
But don't listen to me, listen to Donald who stated if they gave the people the voting access they were asking for, you know TO FUCKING VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY (WHICH IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT), Republicans wouldn't win another election.
He's right, the GOP is a dying party of bad ideas. When your platform is:
Telling people what they can read
What they can say
Who they can love
Where you can shop
When you get to start a family
You are not the party of freedom
Only fools believe that this country is being run by Biden. Only fools believe the mail in ballots are not being harvested. Only fools believe these magic turnarounds late at night are anything but fraud. Only idiots believe our country is better for this shit. Orange man ran a good country. George Soros does not.
well that was a response. not a coherent one, but still a response.
what is it like to be disregarded by your peers all the time for your opinions? probably pretty painful.
I feel sorry for you
Why would you feel sorry for him? He's a nut bag. The lunatic fringe. Cult-minded. The worst kind of idiot.
He might be, but he's an American, he's human and people are hurt/lost/sick. I think it's important to start telling people it's cool to admit you are lost and we still agree on a lot of middle ground items.
That's the only path forward, having grace, being forgiving, and focus on the middle grounds we both care about.
If we don't, it's truly a path to destruction
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
Only fools believe that this country is being run by Biden. Only fools believe the mail in ballots are not being harvested. Only fools believe these magic turnarounds late at night are anything but fraud. Only idiots believe our country is better for this shit. Orange man ran a good country. George Soros does not.
well that was a response. not a coherent one, but still a response.
what is it like to be disregarded by your peers all the time for your opinions? probably pretty painful.
I feel sorry for you
I find it funny that you think somehow most don't agree with me on everything I've said. It shows that you're the out of touch one. Even a large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud and incompetence that has overtaken our govt. Many substantiate it by saying Trump did it too. Only one difference, Trump was thoroughly investigated by numerous in power that loathed him and nothing was found. Much has been found on Biden, but the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and every other agency charged with keeping him in check are actively complicit in letting him off the hook. I would love to see Biden's finances gone through as thoroughly as the Orange Man's and see what would really show up. lol But, people like you can't even be intellectually honest with yourself, so it's a fool's errand to try, much less care. At the end of the day, people that have voted like you are the reason this country is failing in most every dimension since the senile one got in office. I don't think the world "president" really applies when the guy doesn't know his own title 90% of the time. Just wondering if you think voter fraud has really not increased significantly since Covid and the Mail In Ballots that are counted three weeks after the elections are over. You really want to tell me that you don't think that system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.? If you don't, you live on another planet.
This is a horrible set of assumptions that make you look like an ass. Where are your facts to any of your claims? "A large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud . . ." Seriously, like WTF is this statement?
Biden has listed his US tax records online, Trump spent years keeping the American public from his, only bending to the legal decisions of the courts to access his.
Where is this country failing "in most every dimension"? Household wealth is up, Americans having access to healthcare is up. Deadly crimes are down (BTW before you get into crime, might want to check which states have the highest violent crime rates, the top 5? All Trump states)
Voter Fraud, good lord man. Is the number zero? No, but every institution with integrity has reviewed this top to bottom. Here are some staggering voter fraud stats:
Over 14 years from 2000-2014 with over 1 billion votes counted, 31 actual "voting impersonation" cases were legit.
Incident rates of voter fraud are 0.0003 - 0.00025 percent
There is a litany of reviewed documents, studies that indicate that voter fraud is less likely than you being struck by lightning.
"That the system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.?" What does this even mean? Like what, like mail in ballots. Why don't you respond to what the Texas AG said about their efforts to block mail in ballots? You are cool with this? Not giving Americans the right to vote? That's what you are cool with? Yes or no
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
Only fools believe that this country is being run by Biden. Only fools believe the mail in ballots are not being harvested. Only fools believe these magic turnarounds late at night are anything but fraud. Only idiots believe our country is better for this shit. Orange man ran a good country. George Soros does not.
well that was a response. not a coherent one, but still a response.
what is it like to be disregarded by your peers all the time for your opinions? probably pretty painful.
I feel sorry for you
I find it funny that you think somehow most don't agree with me on everything I've said. It shows that you're the out of touch one. Even a large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud and incompetence that has overtaken our govt. Many substantiate it by saying Trump did it too. Only one difference, Trump was thoroughly investigated by numerous in power that loathed him and nothing was found. Much has been found on Biden, but the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and every other agency charged with keeping him in check are actively complicit in letting him off the hook. I would love to see Biden's finances gone through as thoroughly as the Orange Man's and see what would really show up. lol But, people like you can't even be intellectually honest with yourself, so it's a fool's errand to try, much less care. At the end of the day, people that have voted like you are the reason this country is failing in most every dimension since the senile one got in office. I don't think the world "president" really applies when the guy doesn't know his own title 90% of the time. Just wondering if you think voter fraud has really not increased significantly since Covid and the Mail In Ballots that are counted three weeks after the elections are over. You really want to tell me that you don't think that system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.? If you don't, you live on another planet.
This is a horrible set of assumptions that make you look like an ass. Where are your facts to any of your claims? "A large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud . . ." Seriously, like WTF is this statement?
Biden has listed his US tax records online, Trump spent years keeping the American public from his, only bending to the legal decisions of the courts to access his.
Where is this country failing "in most every dimension"? Household wealth is up, Americans having access to healthcare is up. Deadly crimes are down (BTW before you get into crime, might want to check which states have the highest violent crime rates, the top 5? All Trump states)
Voter Fraud, good lord man. Is the number zero? No, but every institution with integrity has reviewed this top to bottom. Here are some staggering voter fraud stats:
Over 14 years from 2000-2014 with over 1 billion votes counted, 31 actual "voting impersonation" cases were legit.
Incident rates of voter fraud are 0.0003 - 0.00025 percent
There is a litany of reviewed documents, studies that indicate that voter fraud is less likely than you being struck by lightning.
"That the system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.?" What does this even mean? Like what, like mail in ballots. Why don't you respond to what the Texas AG said about their efforts to block mail in ballots? You are cool with this? Not giving Americans the right to vote? That's what you are cool with? Yes or no
Your talking points sound kinda like Joe's handlers. Lol
What the hell does posting tax records online have to do with anything? Who cares?
Let's see, inflation is at all-time highs due to Joe's lack of a common-sense energy policy, supply chain issues, and runaway spending which has devalued the dollar, and a move away utilizing the dollar as a central currency. I mean we kill the Keystone pipeline project out of spite on Day 1 and blow up the Nordstream pipeline later. Beautiful policy. I'm sure you think the Nordstream pipeline demise is some big mystery. People with a brain realize that Biden officials told us it would not be allowed one way or another far in advance.
Life expectancy is down to all death-rates spiraling. Economic growth is anemic despite it being a layup due to Covid. We are more than 50% likely to enter a recession within the next year in most economic forecasts though Joe and team will attempt to redefine the recession definition again.
Despite your attempts to spin crime and murder as Red State issues, we all know, and it is proven that crime has spiraled under Biden and the Soros District attorneys over the last 2.5 years and as a result of defund the cop liberal party cry. You cite decreases that only come as a resulting of the spiraling rates in prior years.
Foreign Policy has resulted in the Nuclear Clock towards Armageddon lurching forward. We are on the brink of WWIII in the Ukraine. Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran are forming energy pacts that will work against us economically and militarily.
Current Time - 2023 - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (thebulletin.org)
Immigration is in a wonderful position with record numbers of illegals and terrorist watch list individuals flowing over the southern border, along with fentanyl as another enabler to dropping overall life expectancy.
As far as your voting bs line, I want all legal "Americans" to vote. Florida being the model that actually can report results on election night. They cleaned up their voting logs. They give opportunity to vote other than election day, but they do not create a voting season where ballot harvesting is now the norm in key swing states. Maintaining controls on voter fraud does not stop anyone from exercising their right to vote, except those who shouldn't be voting or those that are harvesting votes. See your neighborhood nursing home if you don't think this happens frequently. Your reviewed documents are by the same media that's in bed with the govt. 40% of Americans have some belief that the 2020 election was stolen outright in a 2022 Axios poll. While you won't see a bunch of follow-up polls, it is obvious that many more Americans believe that the media slants far left in both the mainstream and social medias. I term that as Voter Fraud, though technically it's a less obvious, more sinister issue. But, to answer your above question... No, mail in balloting is rife with fraud. Dinesh D'Souza showed live video of individuals car routes and placing multiple ballots in Mail In Boxes in the swing states that swung the election. The mainstream and social medias have done everything in their arsenal to avoid this being seen by the public. Your media failed to even address it and just called it debunked (much like Hunter's laptop, lol) If Americans can't get off their dead asses to walk 1-2 blocks to vote, then they probably shouldn't.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
This is a horrible set of assumptions that make you look like an ass. Where are your facts to any of your claims? "A large portion of those that vote for Biden legally know of the fraud . . ." Seriously, like WTF is this statement?
Biden has listed his US tax records online, Trump spent years keeping the American public from his, only bending to the legal decisions of the courts to access his.
Where is this country failing "in most every dimension"? Household wealth is up, Americans having access to healthcare is up. Deadly crimes are down (BTW before you get into crime, might want to check which states have the highest violent crime rates, the top 5? All Trump states)
Voter Fraud, good lord man. Is the number zero? No, but every institution with integrity has reviewed this top to bottom. Here are some staggering voter fraud stats:
Over 14 years from 2000-2014 with over 1 billion votes counted, 31 actual "voting impersonation" cases were legit.
Incident rates of voter fraud are 0.0003 - 0.00025 percent
There is a litany of reviewed documents, studies that indicate that voter fraud is less likely than you being struck by lightning.
"That the system is being abused to the benefit of Joe and co.?" What does this even mean? Like what, like mail in ballots. Why don't you respond to what the Texas AG said about their efforts to block mail in ballots? You are cool with this? Not giving Americans the right to vote? That's what you are cool with? Yes or no
Your talking points sound kinda like Joe's handlers. Lol
What the hell does posting tax records online have to do with anything? Who cares?
Let's see, inflation is at all-time highs due to Joe's lack of a common-sense energy policy, supply chain issues, and runaway spending which has devalued the dollar, and a move away utilizing the dollar as a central currency. I mean we kill the Keystone pipeline project out of spite on Day 1 and blow up the Nordstream pipeline later. Beautiful policy. I'm sure you think the Nordstream pipeline demise is some big mystery. People with a brain realize that Biden officials told us it would not be allowed one way or another far in advance.
Life expectancy is down to all death-rates spiraling. Economic growth is anemic despite it being a layup due to Covid. We are more than 50% likely to enter a recession within the next year in most economic forecasts though Joe and team will attempt to redefine the recession definition again.
Despite your attempts to spin crime and murder as Red State issues, we all know, and it is proven that crime has spiraled under Biden and the Soros District attorneys over the last 2.5 years and as a result of defund the cop liberal party cry. You cite decreases that only come as a resulting of the spiraling rates in prior years.
Foreign Policy has resulted in the Nuclear Clock towards Armageddon lurching forward. We are on the brink of WWIII in the Ukraine. Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran are forming energy pacts that will work against us economically and militarily.
Current Time - 2023 - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (thebulletin.org)
Immigration is in a wonderful position with record numbers of illegals and terrorist watch list individuals flowing over the southern border, along with fentanyl as another enabler to dropping overall life expectancy.
As far as your voting bs line, I want all legal "Americans" to vote. Florida being the model that actually can report results on election night. They cleaned up their voting logs. They give opportunity to vote other than election day, but they do not create a voting season where ballot harvesting is now the norm in key swing states. Maintaining controls on voter fraud does not stop anyone from exercising their right to vote, except those who shouldn't be voting or those that are harvesting votes. See your neighborhood nursing home if you don't think this happens frequently. Your reviewed documents are by the same media that's in bed with the govt. 40% of Americans have some belief that the 2020 election was stolen outright in a 2022 Axios poll. While you won't see a bunch of follow-up polls, it is obvious that many more Americans believe that the media slants far left in both the mainstream and social medias. I term that as Voter Fraud, though technically it's a less obvious, more sinister issue. But, to answer your above question... No, mail in balloting is rife with fraud. Dinesh D'Souza showed live video of individuals car routes and placing multiple ballots in Mail In Boxes in the swing states that swung the election. The mainstream and social medias have done everything in their arsenal to avoid this being seen by the public. Your media failed to even address it and just called it debunked (much like Hunter's laptop, lol) If Americans can't get off their dead asses to walk 1-2 blocks to vote, then they probably shouldn't.
You are a lost individual. Really fucking sad, I am sure at some point you were respectable.
At least you have friends with the voices in your head, 4chan, 8goon, wherever you incels hang out.
But please keep posting, a representation of the view points of the right.
Quote: 40% of Americans have some belief that the 2020 election was stolen outright in a 2022 Axios poll. While you won't see a bunch of follow-up polls, it is obvious that many more Americans believe that the media slants far left in both the mainstream and social medias. I term that as Voter Fraud, though technically it's a less obvious, more sinister issue. But, to answer your above question... No, mail in balloting is rife with fraud. Dinesh D'Souza showed live video of individuals car routes and placing multiple ballots in Mail In Boxes in the swing states that swung the election. The mainstream and social medias have done everything in their arsenal to avoid this being seen by the public. Your media failed to even address it and just called it debunked (much like Hunter's laptop, lol) If Americans can't get off their dead asses to walk 1-2 blocks to vote, then they probably shouldn't.
BTW 47% of Americans believe that a mythical white (but not white man) Jesus is coming back. Americans for the most part (because of poor education systems) are stupid
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