Quote: @supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem.
I assume he's the fallback position after the good candidates see how bare the personnel cupboard is on D and and say thanks but no thanks.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ TBro said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell.
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time. If there is one player out there that you just press play its him. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season.
Beat me to it - he had Hunter AND Z
Z had like 9 sacks 10 games in, then barely any the back 1/2 of the season.
That contusion was certainly part of it, but so was _onatell
Film takes about 8 weeks to catch up. _onatell didn't adjust at all and offenses learned this. Not surprising they gave up 30+ points 6 times after week 9. Zero times week 9 and prior.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ TBro said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell.
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time. If there is one player out there that you just press play its him. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season.
Beat me to it - he had Hunter AND Z
Z had like 9 sacks 10 games in, then barely any the back 1/2 of the season.
That contusion was certainly part of it, but so was _onatell
Film takes about 8 weeks to catch up. _onatell didn't adjust at all and offenses learned this. Not surprising they gave up 30+ points 6 times after week 9. Zero times week 9 and prior.
If film takes 8 weeks to catch up, better be looking for a new head coach and GM.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ TBro said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell.
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time. If there is one player out there that you just press play its him. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season.
Beat me to it - he had Hunter AND Z
Z had like 9 sacks 10 games in, then barely any the back 1/2 of the season.
That contusion was certainly part of it, but so was _onatell
Film takes about 8 weeks to catch up. _onatell didn't adjust at all and offenses learned this. Not surprising they gave up 30+ points 6 times after week 9. Zero times week 9 and prior.
Lol run that through chatgpt.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
PA seemed pretty convinced that the AZ job was Flores for the taking, sounded like it was pretty much a done deal a couple days ago.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
The Vikings are planning to see how some of the HC scenarios shake out before making an immediate decision on DC. Evero is someone who is high on the list, he is interested in working with KOC as well. His situation with Denver even in a lateral move isn't an issue. So until he gets a HC job would anticipate him being an under the radar candidate.
If Evero goes elsewhere I have been led to believe Desai is the top candidate. Mainly with the intention of staying with the 3-4 base. He runs the Fangio system as well but has proven to be much more aggressive than Donatelle was. He is also known as a strong teacher.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
The Vikings are planning to see how some of the HC scenarios shake out before making an immediate decision on DC. Evero is someone who is high on the list, he is interested in working with KOC as well. His situation with Denver even in a lateral move isn't an issue. So until he gets a HC job would anticipate him being an under the radar candidate.
If Evero goes elsewhere I have been led to believe Desai is the top candidate. Mainly with the intention of staying with the 3-4 base. He runs the Fangio system as well but has proven to be much more aggressive than Donatelle was. He is also known as a strong teacher.
well if KOC is hell bent on staying in a 34, and the goal is the Fangio system.... why not just bring in the guy that gets credit for the system? Is Fangio not interested in the Vikings opening, or is it the other way around?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
The Vikings are planning to see how some of the HC scenarios shake out before making an immediate decision on DC. Evero is someone who is high on the list, he is interested in working with KOC as well. His situation with Denver even in a lateral move isn't an issue. So until he gets a HC job would anticipate him being an under the radar candidate.
If Evero goes elsewhere I have been led to believe Desai is the top candidate. Mainly with the intention of staying with the 3-4 base. He runs the Fangio system as well but has proven to be much more aggressive than Donatelle was. He is also known as a strong teacher.
well if KOC is hell bent on staying in a 34, and the goal is the Fangio system.... why not just bring in the guy that gets credit for the system? Is Fangio not interested in the Vikings opening, or is it the other way around?
Fangio isn't interested nor have the Vikings really reciprocated interest due to some culture aspects. But all in all I don't think that going with Evero or Desai means they are going to simply mimic Fangio's approach either. There are iterations to how that defense is run. I also think the Vikings want the defense to better fit the personnel than simply force players to perform roles they aren't good at. E.G Kendricks playing switch-zone over the middle & leaving Harry as a 2-high safety the majority of the time.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ TBro said:
@ supafreak84 said:
They apparently interviewed Pettine today. No thanks, as he was part of the problem..
I'm not really interested in Flores. Desai might be ok. To me, the guy most interesting is the guy from New Orleans. Still think it would be worth interviewing someone from that Bengals defensive staff before all is said and done
To me, that was more out of Courtesy than anything else. I doubt he will be on the new staff when the season starts. The competition for the best D Coordinators is heating up as several are being considered for HC positions like Flores with the Cardinals, or have several interviews pending or completed with other teams. Nielsen and Desai have met with several other teams already. We better identify who we want quickly and aggressively go after them. Why Flores would consider the Cardinals when they are part of the same lawsuit is baffling to me. Seems more like a Rooney Rule check the box thing than real interest. Hope I'm wrong for his sake because he deserves another opportunity after the shit show in Miami. I also wish Evero is on KOC's short list but I'm guessing that Denver is only letting him interview for Head Coach openings which he already has with the Texans and Colts.
The Vikings are planning to see how some of the HC scenarios shake out before making an immediate decision on DC. Evero is someone who is high on the list, he is interested in working with KOC as well. His situation with Denver even in a lateral move isn't an issue. So until he gets a HC job would anticipate him being an under the radar candidate.
If Evero goes elsewhere I have been led to believe Desai is the top candidate. Mainly with the intention of staying with the 3-4 base. He runs the Fangio system as well but has proven to be much more aggressive than Donatelle was. He is also known as a strong teacher.
Desai may be the top candidate if Evero goes elsewhere but he was passed over last year for Donatell so why would he be considered the top choice this go around? Has he done enough with the Seahawks this season to better his resume to be the choice this time?
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