Parsons traded to the Pack...

[StickierBuns]

Regardless of how you feel about this trade, the Packer's coaches and organization is now in a big way....

[Bunsen82]

Serious question right now, who do you pick-

Jonathon Greenard at 4 Years $76. Last Year 12 Sacks 59 Tackles 18 Tackles for loss 4 Forced Fumbles 12.8% Pass Rush win rate
Micah Parsons at 4 years $188. Last year 12 sacks 43 Tackles 12 Tackles for loss 2 forced fumbles 20.2% Pass Rush win rate

Is Parsons one of the best pass rushing Defensive Ends? Absolutely - that pass rush win rate is amazing. Is he not as stout against the run. Absolutely. The pack also got weaker on run defense with trading Clark. So they improved their pressure from the D-Line on passing downs but took a step back in run defense and spent a lot of money they can't use elsewhere and lost draft picks. These contracts will lineup ever year except the last 1. I take the Greenard deal every day of the week and I don't look back.

[comet52]

Pack it in, its over:

Man I'm seeing a lotta Viking fans on suicide watch over this deal lol.  But I didn't expect you,  Sticky to be hitting the bottle this hard!

I said two words on this board a month ago when someone brought up the idea of going after Parsons--overrated and overpaid.  At 47 mil the latter is absolutely true.

I'm not a Skip Blowhard fan but what he says here I mostly agree with.  

[StickierBuns]

Man I'm seeing a lotta Viking fans on suicide watch over this deal lol.  But I didn't expect you,  Sticky to be hitting the bottle this hard!

I said two words on this board a month ago when someone brought up the idea of going after Parsons--overrated and overpaid.  At 47 mil the latter is absolutely true.

I'm not a Skip Blowhard fan but what he says here I mostly agree with.  

lol, my post was sarcasm. I know, hard to decipher in the written word. Making fun of the oddsmakers. 

I honestly worry more about what Minnesota is doing (new O-line, aging but important DL FA acquisitions, the secondary, JJM) than anything any other NFCN team is doing. Fingers crossed it all works out. Micah is one dude: our line was upgraded and JJ is mobile, so hopefully mitigated to some respect. I'm ready for the real deal, getting fatigued over what might be! Let's play and give me something real to bitch about!

Brad Spielberger
@SpielbergerBrad
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Packers become first team in NFL history to pay $100M+ annually to just two players

[pattersaur]

Kenny Clark is borderline washed but Dallas can supposedly cut him after this season if they want, and Green Bay picked up 95% of his tab for this season too. From that standpoint he's an extremely low-risk add for Dallas with short-term upside.

Two firsts is also nice. The fact they weren't able to get more doesn't tell me DALLAS GOT FLEECED like some are saying. It tells me there's a lot of owners not excited about paying a defensive player $50M/yr. Maybe they should have gotten more but Dallas did okay.

Green Bay- Their defense got a lot scarier. Micah is a great add for them at a reasonable price. This will either be the "missing piece" narrative and GB will be an elite team. Or this will be an act of desperation that doesn't pan out for a team overpaying a shaky QB. Tough to say which way this will go for them, but Green Bay is all-in now. Personally before this trade I had them with the Bears at the bottom of the North this season, now I'm not sure.

[MaroonBells]

I'm not a Skip Blowhard fan but what he says here I mostly agree with.  

I've heard people say this about Danielle Hunter too. "He disappears." EVERY edge rusher disappears for stretches based on scheme, opponent and game plan. 

Jonathan Greenard, Pro Bowler and maybe the best Vikings free agent acquisition in the last several years, had 9 games last year without a sack. 10 if you include the playoff game against the Rams. 

Is Parsons overpaid? Definitely. Is he overrated and will this eventually hurt the Packers? Probably. Are the Vikings still better than the Packers? I think so. 

But did the Packers just get better and did the North just get tougher for the Vikings? Without a doubt.

[pattersaur]

I've heard people say this about Danielle Hunter too. "He disappears." EVERY edge rusher disappears for stretches based on scheme, opponent and game plan. 

Jonathan Greenard, Pro Bowler and maybe the best Vikings free agent acquisition in the last several years, had 9 games last year without a sack. 10 if you include the playoff game against the Rams. 

I always chuckle at the "disappears" narrative too. HOFer Jared Allen could be invisible for 3 quarters and then right when you need him-- bang-- strip sack on 3rd down. These guys aren't valuable because they make the most plays. It's because the plays they do make are the most valuable.

[Waterboy]

The Vikings obtained Jared Allen for 1 first rounder and he turned into a HOFer and hit 22 sacks at one point in time. While Parsons is good, two first rounders is very expensive along with that cap hit. There is both good and bad in that acquisition, but I don't think it can be argued the Packers pulled off the steal of the century here. They did well, but they didn't break the bank imho.

[comet52]

I've heard people say this about Danielle Hunter too. "He disappears." EVERY edge rusher disappears for stretches based on scheme, opponent and game plan. 

Jonathan Greenard, Pro Bowler and maybe the best Vikings free agent acquisition in the last several years, had 9 games last year without a sack. 10 if you include the playoff game against the Rams. 

Is Parsons overpaid? Definitely. Is he overrated and will this eventually hurt the Packers? Probably. Are the Vikings still better than the Packers? I think so. 

But did the Packers just get better and did the North just get tougher for the Vikings? Without a doubt.

Parsons gets his stats like Kirko used to then the playoffs arrive.  That's the disappearing that matters.  He'll have an impact (if his back doesn't sideline him) but it's not enough to change my overall take on the ceiling for the Pack right now.

But regardless, in this team sport a lot of clubs have gone hard after that "one guy" and found out it didn't work the way they thought it would.

This is an all-in for 2025 move for them which imo won't result in a title and will hamstring their future to some extent.

[MaroonBells]

@Chicago_Jay1

The Green Bay Packers were a blocked field goal away from going 0-6 in the NFC North. I promise you they were not a Micah Parsons away. 

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Anyone know if the Packer win total o/u has gone up since the news? Got to be a way to profit off this media hype.