Quote: @Greylock said:
@ kmillard said:
In my perfect scenario Kirk gets signed to a 1 year contract with a 2nd year option, Vikings draft a future QB in the top 10.
What will really happen is Kirk gets signed to a 3 year deal and no QBs taken from this great class, maybe another 4th or 5th rounder. Its just how they roll.
Kirk is out for himself, coming off a major injury and heading into his late 30's he knows this is his last chance to get a high dollar contract. No hometown discount and fully guaranteed is the only deal he will consider signing. Good luck Kirk finding some team that will cave to your demands. What ever team he signs that guaranteed deal with hope he enjoys watching the playoffs from his couch.
Insightful.
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
Given the in-law side of the family is there, I think its a distinct possibility.
I also think if the Vikings offer is competitive, Kirko will stay here in this system, with this staff, with this surround and not move the kids out of MN.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
Again, I think his age is irrelevant, but his injury is not. I don't think any team should be offering him a fully guaranteed contract coming off of an achilles injury. And I could be wrong, but I don't think any will. Partially guaranteed? Sure. 100% is hard to see.
I think what gets it done is the term. I think Kwesi, due to what appears to be a pretty specific and restrictive financial vision for the future, doesn't want to go past two years. And I think there are teams who won't even blink at a 3-year term.
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
I don't think there's a market for him beyond Minnesota and Atlanta in a real way and even if there were, I think these are the only 2 opportunities he would seriously consider. Its not like the Falcons have a shit team, they don't. Kirk's wife was born and raised in Atlanta and went to the University of Georgia in Athens, so this is a real choice if Atlanta is truly interested. But although I much prefer getting Cousins back in Minnesota, my line in the sand is no 3-year contract and the whole thing can't be guaranteed.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
I don't think there's a market for him beyond Minnesota and Atlanta in a real way and even if there were, I think these are the only 2 opportunities he would seriously consider. Its not like the Falcons have a shit team, they don't. Kirk's wife was born and raised in Atlanta and went to the University of Georgia in Athens, so this is a real choice if Atlanta is truly interested. But although I much prefer getting Cousins back in Minnesota, my line in the sand is no 3-year contract and the whole thing can't be guaranteed.
If Atlanta traded for Fields tomorrow I wonder what that does to Kirk's market? I keep hearing this "line in the sand" talk which is fine but that line is constantly moving. It's just how leverage works. Currently, the Vikings have no leverage with Kirk so we offer X. The more teams drop out of the running, the more our offer should DROP, not increase. Kirk and his agent know this. The idea that the Vikings have told KC, "we're going to give you this many dollars for this many years, you get back to us when it's convenient for you" is not realistic. KAM will lower any offer in a heartbeat if it helps the team. As he should!
The Vikings and Kirk both appear to be playing chicken to some degree with one another. I have no clue who's going to win. We might get absolutely fleeced, we might get Kirk for a song. So much to be decided in the next month or two.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
I don't think there's a market for him beyond Minnesota and Atlanta in a real way and even if there were, I think these are the only 2 opportunities he would seriously consider. Its not like the Falcons have a shit team, they don't. Kirk's wife was born and raised in Atlanta and went to the University of Georgia in Athens, so this is a real choice if Atlanta is truly interested. But although I much prefer getting Cousins back in Minnesota, my line in the sand is no 3-year contract and the whole thing can't be guaranteed.
If Atlanta traded for Fields tomorrow I wonder what that does to Kirk's market? I keep hearing this "line in the sand" talk which is fine but that line is constantly moving. It's just how leverage works. Currently, the Vikings have no leverage with Kirk so we offer X. The more teams drop out of the running, the more our offer should DROP, not increase. Kirk and his agent know this. The idea that the Vikings have told KC, "we're going to give you this many dollars for this many years, you get back to us when it's convenient for you" is not realistic. KAM will lower any offer in a heartbeat if it helps the team. As he should!
The Vikings and Kirk both appear to be playing chicken to some degree with one another. I have no clue who's going to win. We might get absolutely fleeced, we might get Kirk for a song. So much to be decided in the next month or two.
All it takes is 2 teams....
Trade-ups aside, ATL at #8 looks to be in a good spot for QB4 in the draft.
Has anyone heard anything out of the ATL camp that they have interest in Kirko? I have not.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
I don't think there's a market for him beyond Minnesota and Atlanta in a real way and even if there were, I think these are the only 2 opportunities he would seriously consider. Its not like the Falcons have a shit team, they don't. Kirk's wife was born and raised in Atlanta and went to the University of Georgia in Athens, so this is a real choice if Atlanta is truly interested. But although I much prefer getting Cousins back in Minnesota, my line in the sand is no 3-year contract and the whole thing can't be guaranteed.
If Atlanta traded for Fields tomorrow I wonder what that does to Kirk's market? I keep hearing this "line in the sand" talk which is fine but that line is constantly moving. It's just how leverage works. Currently, the Vikings have no leverage with Kirk so we offer X. The more teams drop out of the running, the more our offer should DROP, not increase. Kirk and his agent know this. The idea that the Vikings have told KC, "we're going to give you this many dollars for this many years, you get back to us when it's convenient for you" is not realistic. KAM will lower any offer in a heartbeat if it helps the team. As he should!
The Vikings and Kirk both appear to be playing chicken to some degree with one another. I have no clue who's going to win. We might get absolutely fleeced, we might get Kirk for a song. So much to be decided in the next month or two.
All it takes is 2 teams....
Trade-ups aside, ATL at #8 looks to be in a good spot for QB4 in the draft.
Has anyone heard anything out of the ATL camp that they have interest in Kirko? I have not.
Teams can't say anything right now. But I think there are very good reasons why they're currently the favorites to land him. They very much need a QB; Kirk spends offseasons there; they have the weapons and could consider themselves a QB away; they have a top 5 offensive line (2nd in pass blocking); and like the Vikings, the Falcons run a McVay offense.
I think he'd probably prefer the Vikings over a dozen other teams. But if the Vikings offer isn't close to theirs, it's going to to be hard for him to ignore how well he fits there.
But Kirk’s kids really like their kindergarten, so we have that going for us…!  B)
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Tannenbaum on ESPN this morning thinks Kirk will get a contract offer in the realm of 35 to 40 million a year, but won't be fully guaranteed due to age and injury. Thinks the Vikings have a line in the sand and will make him their best and final offer prior to the owners meetings so they know where they are prior to free agency. Thinks Atlanta is by far the best alternate fit and that if Cousons gets a fully guaranteed deal he should be inducted into the sports business Hall of Fame lol.
Jeff Darlington thinks Kirk is a goner and goes to Atlanta
I think the money will be roughly the same. The market is the market. So I'll say what I've been saying for two months: for Kirk it will come down to Atlanta (or whoever) for 3 years or the Vikings for 2.
I don't think there's a market for him beyond Minnesota and Atlanta in a real way and even if there were, I think these are the only 2 opportunities he would seriously consider. Its not like the Falcons have a shit team, they don't. Kirk's wife was born and raised in Atlanta and went to the University of Georgia in Athens, so this is a real choice if Atlanta is truly interested. But although I much prefer getting Cousins back in Minnesota, my line in the sand is no 3-year contract and the whole thing can't be guaranteed.
If Atlanta traded for Fields tomorrow I wonder what that does to Kirk's market? I keep hearing this "line in the sand" talk which is fine but that line is constantly moving. It's just how leverage works. Currently, the Vikings have no leverage with Kirk so we offer X. The more teams drop out of the running, the more our offer should DROP, not increase. Kirk and his agent know this. The idea that the Vikings have told KC, "we're going to give you this many dollars for this many years, you get back to us when it's convenient for you" is not realistic. KAM will lower any offer in a heartbeat if it helps the team. As he should!
The Vikings and Kirk both appear to be playing chicken to some degree with one another. I have no clue who's going to win. We might get absolutely fleeced, we might get Kirk for a song. So much to be decided in the next month or two.
All it takes is 2 teams....
Trade-ups aside, ATL at #8 looks to be in a good spot for QB4 in the draft.
Has anyone heard anything out of the ATL camp that they have interest in Kirko? I have not.
Teams can't say anything right now. But I think there are very good reasons why they're currently the favorites to land him. They very much need a QB; Kirk spends offseasons there; they have the weapons and could consider themselves a QB away; they have a top 5 offensive line (2nd in pass blocking); and like the Vikings, the Falcons run a McVay offense.
I think he'd probably prefer the Vikings over a dozen other teams. But if the Vikings offer isn't close to theirs, it's going to to be hard for him to ignore how well he fits there.
....AND (I completely forgot about this) they have a pick in the top 8 that they won't have to use on a QB. Imagine pairing London with Marvin Harrison or Odunze or Nabers to go with Bijan, Pitts and 2nd best pass blocking line in football. Damn, I think their situation might actually be better than ours!
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