Breaking: TJ Hockenson to the VIkings

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Well the 2023 draft will basically be paid vacation for Kwesi  :p but DAMN this is a nice pickup.  Hockenson may not have lived up to #8 as a pass catcher but he also blocks like a beast... which ISJ did not.  

JJ/AT/KJ/TJ ?!?  I freaking dare opponents to cover that.

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@Montana Tom said:
I will add that the first time ISJ dropped that wide open pass early in the season, I lost confidence in him.  I'd say there's a chance we won't see ISJ in a purple uniform again.  A reasonably good chance.

Hell, we dont see him now - I will miss him....not

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@claykenny said:
Great move. They are effectively trading down two rounds in 2023 and maybe giving up a 3rd round pick for Hockenson. You are unlikely to draft a player of his caliber in the late 2nd through 4th round. He's a great run blocker. Definitely an upgrade in the passing game.

If he decides not to resign with the Vikings, they are going to get a compensatory pick of some flavor that may effectively cancel out some of what they gave up to the Lions. If he plays well and resigns, they are going to fill a big need without using much draft capital. In any case, will help them make a push in 2022.

And our 2nd rounder next year and their 4th rounder will likely be closer to only trading down 1 round, not 2.

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@claykenny said:
Great move. They are effectively trading down two rounds in 2023 and maybe giving up a 3rd round pick for Hockenson. You are unlikely to draft a player of his caliber in the late 2nd through 4th round. He's a great run blocker. Definitely an upgrade in the passing game.

If he decides not to resign with the Vikings, they are going to get a compensatory pick of some flavor that may effectively cancel out some of what they gave up to the Lions. If he plays well and resigns, they are going to fill a big need without using much draft capital. In any case, will help them make a push in 2022.

I believe the Lions already exercised their 5th year option on TJ. So the Vikings will owe him his guaranteed 2023 salary (probably $9 to 10M). I suspect we will want to extend him next year as well.

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@greediron said:

@claykenny said:
Great move. They are effectively trading down two rounds in 2023 and maybe giving up a 3rd round pick for Hockenson. You are unlikely to draft a player of his caliber in the late 2nd through 4th round. He's a great run blocker. Definitely an upgrade in the passing game.

If he decides not to resign with the Vikings, they are going to get a compensatory pick of some flavor that may effectively cancel out some of what they gave up to the Lions. If he plays well and resigns, they are going to fill a big need without using much draft capital. In any case, will help them make a push in 2022.

And our 2nd rounder next year and their 4th rounder will likely be closer to only trading down 1 round, not 2.

call me a crazy optimist but that 2024 swap of 4ths could very well move us up in that round as well.

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@SFVikeFan said:
Kwesi swinging for the motherF****** fences.  LOVE this deal way more than adding another WR when KJ has done pretty good.

Spielman would have sent a 3rd round pick for some no name #3 TE.  Hockenson is a  young Top 10 TE with arrow pointing up. 

For only a 2nd round pick in 2023 and mid rounders in 24, outstanding deal for us.

100%!

Versus signing OBJ..... this was a shrewd smart move. 

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@JR44 said:
This and other reports show us giving up a 2nd and 4th, not a 3rd

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1587...wcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftouchdownwire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F11%2F01%2Ft-j-hockenson-to-vikings-in-trade%2F

Looks like we send a 2024 4th and get one back.

Edit: my computer is glitching but JR44 posted a tweet from Rapoport that said we sent a 2024 4 to Detroit and get a conditional 4 back.

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I just love that he is going to be a draw for safeties to come down and have to deal with his athleticism.  He is a big red zone target that will pair very well with Jet.  I feel this is going to free up Jet a lot more, especially lined up on the same side.  KJ and Adam become your deep threat (KJ) and short-medium outlets (AT).

PLUS he's a hell of a blocker which Irv was not.  So going 3 wide with a TE can be just as effective as having run blocking TE in but an additional threat and potential great matchup with an audible.

This kid, 25, is not only going to have an impact on this season but also could be a stud for the franchise for the next 5 years.

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Can he get up to speed to step in this Sunday---I want to see me some in the trenches dirty football

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