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@Purpleblooded said:
Sewell and Slater are a tier above Darrishaw, but it will very likely take a trade up to get Slater and Sewell will be long gone by #14.  AVT is devalued because he shows as a guard in the NFL, albeit a damn good one -- question is whether #14 is too high for a guard.

I could certainly see Sewell gone and the price to trade up for Slater too steep.  Trader Rick slides down the board in the hopes of getting AVT and recouping a 2nd or more capital with which to trade back into the second.  It's just the way he rolls.

So if its going to take an extremely high pick from next years picks to get Sewell or Slater, AVT isnt a consolation prize. You would need to feel confident in Clevlands abilities to hold down one of the OT spots or be willing to sign a T with your remaining FA money. 

Would you rather have Sewell and no first next year or AVT and get to keep next years first?

I lean option #2

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  KELLEN MONDQB, TEXAS A&M AGGIES

  ESPN's Todd McShay reports that Texas A&M QB Kellen Mond and Florida QB Kyle Trask are "very likely" to be selected before the end of Round 2.Throw in Stanford's Davis Mills, who has received a little Day 1 buzz, and at least by the rumor mill's estimation, we could see eight quarterbacks off the board midway through the second day of the draft. To which we would just say, easy now. Over-projecting the position is a tale as old as time. Trask doesn't profile as much more than a backup in the pros while Mond will take time to develop. With five quarterbacks expected to be drafted in Round 1, it could be difficult to find slots for three additional signal-callers in Round 2.
  

  SOURCE: ESPN PlusApr 26, 2021, 1:51 PM ET
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  DAVIS MILLSQB, STANFORD CARDINAL

  Pro Football Network's Tony Pauline reports that league "chatter" is swirling around Stanford QB Davis Mills as a potential first-round selection.Mills (6'4/212) has been "massively rising up boards" according to Pauline, who hears that the New England Patriots could be the team to watch for a relatively early selection of the Stanford signal-caller. Just not at the No. 15 pick. Two scenarios to watch for with this one -- either New England could trade down in the first round and take Mills (trading down is very much motus operandi for the outfit) late on Day 1, or they could trade up from the second round with the same result. Chicago and Washington have also been linked to Mills, though Pauline does not believe either club would pony up a first-round selection for the quarterback.
  

  SOURCE: Pro Football Network

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@Purpleblooded said:
Sewell and Slater are a tier above Darrishaw, but it will very likely take a trade up to get Slater and Sewell will be long gone by #14.  AVT is devalued because he shows as a guard in the NFL, albeit a damn good one -- question is whether #14 is too high for a guard.

I could certainly see Sewell gone and the price to trade up for Slater too steep.  Trader Rick slides down the board in the hopes of getting AVT and recouping a 2nd or more capital with which to trade back into the second.  It's just the way he rolls.

So if its going to take an extremely high pick from next years picks to get Sewell or Slater, AVT isnt a consolation prize. You would need to feel confident in Clevlands abilities to hold down one of the OT spots or be willing to sign a T with your remaining FA money. 

Would you rather have Sewell and no first next year or AVT and get to keep next years first?

I lean option #2

I'd take option #2 as well.  I honestly think they drafted Cleveland as a tackle.  I'd feel "ok with AVT at #14.  I'd be psyched if we could trade down, still nab AVT and get a second-rounder.  Hey, a man can dream!

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Just so the draft goes well, needs are addressed, and the fuggin' draft will be OVER so I'll quit getting a dozen mocks in my sports feed every damned hour....

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Left Guard has been a dumpster fire for this team since Hutchinson. I agree with Cronin that Darrisaw will be gone by 14. I have no problem taking AVT there and would be concerned about trading back and still having a chance to get him. If the projections on him being a perennial All Pro Guard are accurate, how is that not worth #14? How many games are we going to watch our garbage 4th and 5th round picks or low level free agents fail at the guard position to finally invest in a top prospect in the draft? Especially for a team that relies heavily on running the ball and play action passing? He would immediately make the left side of the line better and would help Bradbury and whoever we start at Left Tackle become better players. I'm all in on AVT. 

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I also like the idea of AVT at LG, inserting Udoh in at RT and moving O'Neill to LT where most scouts thought he would eventually land with some experience. I think he is ready. 

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We need a new LT and a Guard from this draft.  I don't want to move O'Neil or Cleveland and I have no idea how our brass feels about moving anyone around.  It has not worked out to well in our past but nothing has in terms of OL.  

MY take: Sewell with a decent gap, then Slater and not much of a gap with Darrisaw.  Slater has the edge over Darrisaw getting to the second level run blocking but Darrisaw has the arm length advantage in pass protection. But Slater is no slouch in pass pro, he has great hands and positioning.  Darrisaw also played all 3 years and improved each year.  There are some questions about Slater being a LT or a Guard where that is not a question with Darrisaw.  

My nightmare scenario for round 1 is that all 3 of these guys are gone before our pick and we settle on AVT who is a Guard.  I want a LT in round 1.  I think we can find a Guard in the later rounds.  I have an interest in the Christensen (BYU).  Played LT but doesn't have the length to play T in the NFL.  A lot of his workout numbers are very similar to Ezra from last year, not Better then Ezra, but similar.  I had to get that in there  Would really like one of the Big 3 at #14 and the BYU kid with one of our 4th rounders.  

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I think Sewell and Slater are gone well before 14.  If either AVT or Darrisaw is there, jump on it.  If they're both gone, I may have to grind my teeth and hope that Jaycee Horn or Waddle is still available or hope for a trade down.  I don't trust Paye, Rousseau or Phillips as much as you should to take them at 14.

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@minny65 said:
We need a new LT and a Guard from this draft.  I don't want to move O'Neil or Cleveland and I have no idea how our brass feels about moving anyone around.  It has not worked out to well in our past but nothing has in terms of OL.  

MY take: Sewell with a decent gap, then Slater and not much of a gap with Darrisaw.  Slater has the edge over Darrisaw getting to the second level run blocking but Darrisaw has the arm length advantage in pass protection. But Slater is no slouch in pass pro, he has great hands and positioning.  Darrisaw also played all 3 years and improved each year.  There are some questions about Slater being a LT or a Guard where that is not a question with Darrisaw.  

My nightmare scenario for round 1 is that all 3 of these guys are gone before our pick and we settle on AVT who is a Guard.  I want a LT in round 1.  I think we can find a Guard in the later rounds.  I have an interest in the Christensen (BYU).  Played LT but doesn't have the length to play T in the NFL.  A lot of his workout numbers are very similar to Ezra from last year, not Better then Ezra, but similar.  I had to get that in there  Would really like one of the Big 3 at #14 and the BYU kid with one of our 4th rounders.  

Totally agree about Christensen. I keep thinking what am I missing here? I can't figure out why everyone keeps listing him as tackle. 32 inch arms don't play tackle in the NFL. He'll be a guard. 

OK, so now you have a guard who's 6-5, 302, runs a 4.89 forty and has some of the best pass blocking numbers in football: Lowest QB pressure % allowed by an OT since 2014:

Brady Christensen, 2020 - 0.8%.

Biggest problem with Christensen is his age. He'll be 25 in September. Vikings like young players. 

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Getting close now. Now is when the rumors that come in usually have more legs.