Titans broke protocols and gathered for a workout

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@greediron said:

@Hawkvike25 said:

@greediron said:

@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:

Or pointing out hypocrisy ?  This was the exact argument to why the NFL shouldn't allow the kneeling.  And for a much better reason that covid fear.
Tell me, has any NFL player ended up in the hospital because of covid?  There will be many that die early from dementia, suicide and other issues related to head injury, yet they keep playing.  The risk for this population is near nil, but we accept the drama because the almighty NFL said so.

My wife is a runner. She personally knows a couple marathoners that got covid and cannot run months later due to lung issues. They were in just as good of shape as most of these nfl players. 

Covid is not a joke. 

no one said covid is a joke. 

I personally know people that had cancer and died. Death sucks.  health issues suck.  But living in fear of illness isn't going to make life any better.
People have committed suicide because of the stress of the lockdown.  People have died of strokes because they feared going to the hospital and getting covid.  Fear isn't the answer.

You continue to mock all announcements about COVID so please, enlighten us with the NFL's solution.

Myocarditis is a serious thing and the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. are all monitoring this lingering effect. While these are well conditioned athletes, they are eligible to that lingering sickness. 2020 sucks, we all know this, but the smartest thing to do is prevent a spread in the NFL, even if that means most players wont be hospitalized from the sickness. It's the big picture that matters.

The illness is not a joke, but the response to it is fraudulent.

From the CDC:
Page 3-4

Those who get sick with Covid19:

Wear a mask ALWAYS: 70.6%

NEVER wear a mask: 3.9

Wait, so now we like the CDC? I can't keep this straight anymore.

And I admittedly don't know enough about this study (none of us do), but you're suggesting that this means wearing a mask is probably the worst thing you can do? I have a feeling the data is being interpreted incorrectly or there's a flaw in the reporting of the numbers. (I actually am curious, if somebody on here is a doctor and who could weigh in... am I reading that incorrectly?) Literally every success story of this virus being contained tells the opposite of that data.

More to the point, you've taken one piece of data - interpreted it on your own - and drawn a conclusion that masks make you sick. I've listened to experts since this started and they're all in agreement to the contrary. Sure, their findings and opinions have changed as they've learned more, but a few constants remain: wearing a mask and staying away from people is more effective than even a vaccine.

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Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

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@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

Thanks. I needed somebody to interpret that data ha.

The whole anti-mask thing is just such a peculiar movement.

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@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

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@greediron said:

@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

Why do you think you know more than respected medical experts? "In your mind" doesn't matter because, like me, you're just a regular guy that Googled some shit. I'll take the word of Dr. Fauci.

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@KingBash said:

@greediron said:

@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

Why do you think you know more than respected medical experts? "In your mind" doesn't matter because, like me, you're just a regular guy that Googled some shit. I'll take the word of Dr. Fauci.

So many people that 'know better' out there. We'll be back in the Stone Ages in no time, slinging rocks and feces at each other and talking about how flat the earth is and that's its only 6,000 years old. 

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@KingBash said:

@greediron said:

@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

Why do you think you know more than respected medical experts? "In your mind" doesn't matter because, like me, you're just a regular guy that Googled some shit. I'll take the word of Dr. Fauci.

Based on your replies, I will strenuously object to being "like you".
And funny that you mention trusting Fauci.  A life-long bureaucrat with absolutely nothing to hide and doing everything from the sincere goodness in his heart.

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@greediron said:

@KingBash said:

@greediron said:

@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

Why do you think you know more than respected medical experts? "In your mind" doesn't matter because, like me, you're just a regular guy that Googled some shit. I'll take the word of Dr. Fauci.

Based on your replies, I will strenuously object to being "like you".
And funny that you mention trusting Fauci.  A life-long bureaucrat with absolutely nothing to hide and doing everything from the sincere goodness in his heart.

It's scary that there are so many out there just like you. Regular Joes that watch Fox and share Q memes on Facebook and boom: you've figured out what the rest of us couldn't!

You're just a draining group of people. And because you're all easily duped, everything is shit right now. 

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@StickyBun said:

@KingBash said:

@greediron said:

@IDVikingfan said:
Sorry Greed but the data has a different interpretation.

Those who become infected:
70% wore mask all the time
42% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       51% contact with infected family member
       17% contact with infected co-worker

Contrast with those who did not become infected:
74% wore mask all the time
15% had close contact with someone positive for Covid
       22% contact with infected family member 
       26% contact with infected co-worker

People that became infected had almost 3x higher contact with someone known to be infected.  Contacts were primarily with family (51%) and co-workers (17%).  People wear masks in public but do they at home?  I don't but my wife is retired and minimizes her trips out in public.

True, there is a higher rate there and less likely to wear a mask.  Although the study does say "always".  Point is, if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.  No one in their right mind would suggest wearing a mask around your own home, would they?
The likelihood of getting it from family is more about proximity.  I believe the "close contact" is defined by being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes.  Apart from cube neighbors, who else do we spend that much time in close contact with?  This isn't new, we have understood flu transmission in this way as well.  Spending significant time in the same room with a contagious person.
But with that known, can we really prevent ever getting sick?  No.  This was about flattening the curve so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.  That was done long ago, and mask weren't part of the solution back then either. 

The point of this study in my mind is that masks aren't preventing cases.  And that is what so many have said for so long.

Why do you think you know more than respected medical experts? "In your mind" doesn't matter because, like me, you're just a regular guy that Googled some shit. I'll take the word of Dr. Fauci.

So many people that 'know better' out there. We'll be back in the Stone Ages in no time, slinging rocks and feces at each other and talking about how flat the earth is and that's its only 6,000 years old. 

These are the kinds of people we have to coexist with. It's absolutely HORRIFYING that a person this incredibly stupid resonates with people (I'm assuming like many posters on this board).

We're so screwed.

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@greediron said:

grown men, fit, top condition and they are supposed to be afraid.  Of a positive test.
Point is, many people aren't buying the bullshit.

@greediron said:

@Hawkvike25 said:

@greediron said:

To paraphrase, if you are willing to give up freedoms for nice things, you will get neither. 

Follow the ever changing non-sense rules and we will give you your daily morsel.  I wonder if any nation has tried that method of ruling?

I'm confused. Are you saying that being more strict wont help? USA is literally in the worse shape out of all countries. If the Titans and other teams don't follow protocols the season will get shut down so my "freedom" to watch the nfl wont be available. I, like 99% of people on this site, love watching football. I would like for people to follow the rules set forth by those who pay their salary so I can watch games.

That is slavery.  have you learned nothing from Kaepernick?

I am a frown man. I am in fairly good condition all things considered. I got it and my case was mild. However I believe my Dad got it from me that really coukd have been bad. Thanfully it wasn’t but that is the point I think you are missing. This is a deadly virus. The entire world is not lying to you for a political stunt. This had been a problem in ither countries so it isn’t just a lefty liberals are causing a ruckus thing. Get over it. It is happening and it is continuing to happen. 

Slavers were paying their slaves? I am going to go ahead and believe you didn’t really mean to compare this to slavery.