Somehow a fourth or fifth grader knocking themselves out academically doesn't sit right with me....just my opinion. I've got my AP students who HAVE to get straight A's.....HAVE to be class ranked number one, who burn candles at every possible end. When the kids get a B in the class, parents jump the teacher and go crying to Admin for grade changes....OR....when parents see their kids don't have an A....will transfer into a lower level course to maintain their GPA, two weeks before the end of the semester and try to influence the new teacher for an improved transfer grade, rather than get a B in the original class.
I have an an administrator at my school who was the PROCTOR for the SAT test that her son was in. She LOST four students SAT tests, but not her sons......curious....how long those tests sat in her office before being sent to the college board.
Its stupid. We are seriously robbing our children of their youth with unattainable goals and burning them out before they even graduate from high school.
anyone ever seen the documentary "Race to nowhere"?
ALL parents, teachers, administrators need to take this documentary to heart.
At the beginning of this school year in the next town over, TWO honors students committed suicide rather than continue with high school.
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Why would people need to cheat to take the ACT multiple times? They let you take it 12 times.
They're not cheating to take the test---they're cheating by trying to get the re test done in a facility that has compromised ethics and will fudge the results to achieve a higher score.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Somehow a fourth or fifth grader knocking themselves out academically doesn't sit right with me....just my opinion. I've got my AP students who HAVE to get straight A's.....HAVE to be class ranked number one, who burn candles at every possible end. When the kids get a B in the class, parents jump the teacher and go crying to Admin for grade changes....OR....when parents see their kids don't have an A....will transfer into a lower level course to maintain their GPA, two weeks before the end of the semester and try to influence the new teacher for an improved transfer grade, rather than get a B in the original class.
I have an an administrator at my school who was the PROCTOR for the SAT test that her son was in. She LOST four students SAT tests, but not her sons......curious....how long those tests sat in her office before being sent to the college board.
Its stupid. We are seriously robbing our children of their youth with unattainable goals and burning them out before they even graduate from high school.
anyone ever seen the documentary "Race to nowhere"?
ALL parents, teachers, administrators need to take this documentary to heart.
At the beginning of this school year in the next town over, TWO honors students committed suicide rather than continue with high school.
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
As always, as you know, its not the kids: its the parents. And throw in social media and these kids are growing up with high anxiety. Helicopter parents that have no life of their own and micromanage their kids lives daily. Kids texting their parents 5-6 times a day from school. Zero coping skills. Parents in contact with teachers via email or text constantly putting pressure to raise kid's grades. IT IS INSANE. There are parents that call their kids at COLLEGE and wake them up every morning. No independence and no idea how to handle the slightest adversity.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Somehow a fourth or fifth grader knocking themselves out academically doesn't sit right with me....just my opinion. I've got my AP students who HAVE to get straight A's.....HAVE to be class ranked number one, who burn candles at every possible end. When the kids get a B in the class, parents jump the teacher and go crying to Admin for grade changes....OR....when parents see their kids don't have an A....will transfer into a lower level course to maintain their GPA, two weeks before the end of the semester and try to influence the new teacher for an improved transfer grade, rather than get a B in the original class.
I have an an administrator at my school who was the PROCTOR for the SAT test that her son was in. She LOST four students SAT tests, but not her sons......curious....how long those tests sat in her office before being sent to the college board.
Its stupid. We are seriously robbing our children of their youth with unattainable goals and burning them out before they even graduate from high school.
anyone ever seen the documentary "Race to nowhere"?
ALL parents, teachers, administrators need to take this documentary to heart.
At the beginning of this school year in the next town over, TWO honors students committed suicide rather than continue with high school.
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
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Well said. Some parents are driving their kids over the edge...literally.
Any wonder suicide rates are high for teens. It's a hard enough time to come to grips with things without having someone you love make you feel like you've failed, really before you even started.
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
Somehow a fourth or fifth grader knocking themselves out academically doesn't sit right with me....just my opinion. I've got my AP students who HAVE to get straight A's.....HAVE to be class ranked number one, who burn candles at every possible end. When the kids get a B in the class, parents jump the teacher and go crying to Admin for grade changes....OR....when parents see their kids don't have an A....will transfer into a lower level course to maintain their GPA, two weeks before the end of the semester and try to influence the new teacher for an improved transfer grade, rather than get a B in the original class.
I have an an administrator at my school who was the PROCTOR for the SAT test that her son was in. She LOST four students SAT tests, but not her sons......curious....how long those tests sat in her office before being sent to the college board.
Its stupid. We are seriously robbing our children of their youth with unattainable goals and burning them out before they even graduate from high school.
anyone ever seen the documentary "Race to nowhere"?
ALL parents, teachers, administrators need to take this documentary to heart.
At the beginning of this school year in the next town over, TWO honors students committed suicide rather than continue with high school.
https://youtu.be/Uem73imvn9Y
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Well said. Some parents are driving their kids over the edge...literally.
Any wonder suicide rates are high for teens. It's a hard enough time to come to grips with things without having someone you love make you feel like you've failed, really before you even started.
were did the mentality come from that everybody has to go to a 4 year college? hell there are some people that claim that its a "right" as an American to get a 4 year degree if they want it. well problem is we have an entire country that has been told that they have a right to pretty much anything they want but the notion of earning it hasnt been driven home.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Nope, you are so right. Even with sports, we push and push and burn them out. We don't allow them to be children.
My kids, I give them opportunity and I expect them to give it their best. But it is up to them, the drive has to come from them. I suggest weights and training, but they have to make the effort to do it. I know others that travel every weekend to events, camps and whatever. They live on the road for a 10 year old sports team.
Our boys play football with their friends, without adults, refs and expectations. And that is where they have the most fun at it.
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@ Vanguard83 said:
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Nope, you are so right. Even with sports, we push and push and burn them out. We don't allow them to be children.
My kids, I give them opportunity and I expect them to give it their best. But it is up to them, the drive has to come from them. I suggest weights and training, but they have to make the effort to do it. I know others that travel every weekend to events, camps and whatever. They live on the road for a 10 year old sports team.
Our boys play football with their friends, without adults, refs and expectations. And that is where they have the most fun at it.
Usually it's parents living their own dreams through their children because they either fell short of their own aspirations or wanting to keep them alive. When my kids chose their career paths, I never forced them to do it either this way or that. Like Greed, give them guidance and hope they are up to the hard work that will get them there.
Quote: @ArizonaViking said:
@ greediron said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Nope, you are so right. Even with sports, we push and push and burn them out. We don't allow them to be children.
My kids, I give them opportunity and I expect them to give it their best. But it is up to them, the drive has to come from them. I suggest weights and training, but they have to make the effort to do it. I know others that travel every weekend to events, camps and whatever. They live on the road for a 10 year old sports team.
Our boys play football with their friends, without adults, refs and expectations. And that is where they have the most fun at it.
Usually it's parents living their own dreams through their children because they either fell short of their own aspirations or wanting to keep them alive. When my kids chose their career paths, I never forced them to do it either this way or that. Like Greed, give them guidance and hope they are up to the hard work that will get them there.
Example is the best gift you can give your children.
Quote: @ArizonaViking said:
@ greediron said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
Love your kids without "achievement standards", cherish and protect their childhood.
They have the rest of their lives to work their asses off....can't they ever just be kids?
I know....blast away at me. What do I know, I've only been a high school teacher for 28 years.
Nope, you are so right. Even with sports, we push and push and burn them out. We don't allow them to be children.
My kids, I give them opportunity and I expect them to give it their best. But it is up to them, the drive has to come from them. I suggest weights and training, but they have to make the effort to do it. I know others that travel every weekend to events, camps and whatever. They live on the road for a 10 year old sports team.
Our boys play football with their friends, without adults, refs and expectations. And that is where they have the most fun at it.
Usually it's parents living their own dreams through their children because they either fell short of their own aspirations or wanting to keep them alive. When my kids chose their career paths, I never forced them to do it either this way or that. Like Greed, give them guidance and hope they are up to the hard work that will get them there.
i do agree to some extent... but there is also so much more involved for the parents now for their kids to be in sports than there was 20 years ago. I had a shit ton of money for camps, conditioning trainers, and travel and everything else that is basically required to even have a chance these days that when I saw my kid wasnt putting the same effort into his game as he was wanting me to make... yes I pushed him, but I also gave him the option of walking away anytime he wanted. I dont expect my kids to do anything more than their best effort, but I expect them to earn what they ask for and their way of earning was to put in the effort to get the results.
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