Packers game thread

[AGRforever]

It would be pretty hard for Brosmer to be worse wouldn’t it?

We’re approaching Ryan leaf bad stats.

[purplefaithful]

Well only if you are trying to win the game. They are trying to groom a QB for the future instead!
6 games is too soon to call JJ a bust, but he was certainly a reach.
Truth is, the Vikings have more problems than JJ that cloud the future. But even average QB play would make them a much better team. I doubt they ever play Brosmer unless JJ gets hurt again.

Yup, KOC cant say it in the press (or locker room) but they are trying to groom that QBOTF first and foremost. The redshirt year didnt help at all that I can see. 

The quesiton now is are they hurting him (or not) by not giving him a seat for a week or two? 

And when do you put the teams needs ahead of an individual player?

This is something that I am very glad is not my call to make.

[comet52]

For one half KOC finally did what he should have been doing since day one. Dumb it down for a rookie (never mind sitting for a year, he's a rookie in every sense of it), lean into a very effective run game, and let JJM make simple throws and move the chains. Build the kid's confidence slowly. No drinking from a firehose or trying to pretend he can run some complex downfield aerial attack.

Then the special teams who apparently, based on numerous problems all year including basically losing the last game, are coached by Ed Donatell (how did you get back on the sidelines, Ed?), handed Green Bay 7. And the Coach of the Year decided, down 2 scores with 1.5 quarters left, that it was chuck and duck time. In other words, let's panic, let's make the kid throw on every down, let's not even pretend to stick with our run game, because omg how could we win this otherwise?!

It's serious dumbfuck territory and tbh, I know there are folks on here who believe in KOC but I haven't for a long time, I think he's a fraud in many ways. He blows hot bullshit about organizations fail young qbs. Well this is now Exhibit A. Because JJM ran a run-heavy, conservative attack at Michigan for a coach who I think protected him to some extent, and certainly never asked him to run a low percentage downfield pass attack. This kid needs to be brought along slowly and conservatively and in that regard this HC is clueless as far as I can see.

It isn't doing JJM any good to let him fail this badly week in and week out. The idea that something is magically going to change isn't an idea I believe in. You need to see incremental progress and you need to develop him in a way that makes sense given his skillset and limitations. It's not that he can't be a decent NFL qb but this path is not going to get him there. And it has the potential to completely fuck his career as well.

My general opinion is that this organization from top to bottom doesn't know what it's doing and I'm not seeing much to change that opinion. A couple of luck-filled runs sandwiched by really bad play in the KOC tenure doesn't leave me impressed at all. Just my opinions, feel free to disagree.