Charlie Kirk Shot

[Waterboy]

I keep seeing the same message from the left on Charlie,  "he spread hate"  these same words over and over,  I would love to know how many of them have listened to more than choice snippets of his conversational debates,  or even actually heard a full exchange from start to finish,  or are simply repeating the programming that so many biased sources are echoing among themselves?

You know the answer to that, Jimmy.  Look at the lack of quality of the argument from the left on any of these issues.  They develop narrative, chant it, and have no clue as to what it even means.  They cannot give examples and run away from debate. This clown did the same thing. Charlie would have destroyed him verbally so he took the cowards way out.  I mean to utilize words like nazi, fascist, and concentration camps from the top on down?  Really??  These are people that only value dialogue that fits their beliefs.  Since their beliefs are so wildly inconsistent, they simply resort to names and only having dialogue with their brainwashed brethren.  There are some rational liberals, people that do care about those they don't agree with, but they are few and far between.  Their big talking point now is to share responsibility for the rhetoric.  That's the biggest bunch of shit I've ever heard.  One side had peaceful prayer and dialogue after the biggest assassination in 50 years.  The other side would have burned down our entire country, as they did in 2020, only it would have been worse.  God bless people that can't distinguish between the prayer ceremony at Liberty University and compare and contrast that with the shit went down at Columbia University even this summer, the ongoing riots in Portland and Seattle, the destruction of Minneapolis, and many inner cities, the protests in Ferguson where a guy literally grabbed at a cops gun in his cop car. It's crazy.

[AGRforever]

Agree or disagree, he didn't deserve to go out like that. A wife is a widow and children will grow up without a father.

He spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way. The division in this country and around the world will remain. Working with kiddos and parents after the shooting here has my guard up.

The footage of the person on the roof is concerning to say the least. The suspect will answer to the fullest extent of the law for his actions

He really didn't spread hate.  Of all the "shock jocks" (not sure what to classify him as?)  He didn't spread hate.  He actually did quite the opposite.  He was a Christian and he brought gospel to the masses.  You're welcome to disagree with religion if you choose.  He had his opinions on government.  He opened up a microphone to anyone who wanted it and peaceful debate ensued.  

If we're ever going to solve the division in the country, peaceful dialogue is where it starts.  I don't agree with everything Kirk said but he said it respectfully and to the best of my knowledge I never saw him pander.  What he said he meant.  Its what he actually believed.   

Believing that those with differing opinions are spreading hate is exactly what is causing the division in the country.  You have some soul searching to do Vikegirl.

[badgervike]

Both are true. He spread hate and I don't agree with him. I also don't advocate violence. I want to see the person that took his life face consequences for his actions. We clearly disagree.

Evidently, your side needs to go after all those that spread "hate" VG...

[AGRforever]

Spotify played some Dixie Chicks on my way home. Remember when this was as divided as we were?

[purplefaithful]

There's NEVER an excuse for this type of violence and there is plenty of blame to go around.

NOBODY is changing anyones minds on their perceptions. If it makes you feel better? Go for it I guess.

I'll just say this finger pointing, gotcha stuff ain't the way for the country to work out of its malaise.

[badgervike]

There's NEVER an excuse for this type of violence and there is plenty of blame to go around.

NOBODY is changing anyones minds on their perceptions. If it makes you feel better? Go for it I guess.

I'll just say this finger pointing, gotcha stuff ain't the way for the country to work out of its malaise.

That's the problem PF...is that by engaging with people that disagreed with him, Charlie Kirk was actually doing just that...and in the end...became too good at his job and was killed because of it.  If we can't even discuss issues that divide in a respectful manner, how are we ever going to bridge the divide?

[purplefaithful]

That's the problem PF...is that by engaging with people that disagreed with him, Charlie Kirk was actually doing just that...and in the end...became too good at his job and was killed because of it.  If we can't even discuss issues that divide in a respectful manner, how are we ever going to bridge the divide?

Oh I'm not saying we shouldn't have dialogue and search for common ground, I just dont believe you will change many perceptions along the way. 

But the dialogue has to happen - and it starts with each of us individually and in DC too. 

Maybe I'm a bit old and jaded huh?

[JimmyinSD]

Oh I'm not saying we shouldn't have dialogue and search for common ground, I just dont believe you will change many perceptions along the way. 

But the dialogue has to happen - and it starts with each of us individually and in DC too. 

Maybe I'm a bit old and jaded huh?

Go find some of Charlies early stuff,  look at the crowds and the reactions,  fast forward to this year and look again,  I dont know that his message and approach changed minds,  or just made others that were like minded more comfortable with their views,  but this guy went from a card table and a sign,  to events that drew thousands and they were largely supportive of his message,  even if they didnt agree completely,  they respected his approach and wanted to step up and talk with the guy.

the notion he was spreading hate is simply propaganda,  i rewatched his talk with a trans girl/boy this morning, I had seen it before,  he was totally respectful in his reply, courteous to the other person, and gave his opinion ( which was asked for)  he ended it with his hopes for him/her was that they would be able to find piece with their body,  how is that hate?

[Waterboy]

Go find some of Charlies early stuff,  look at the crowds and the reactions,  fast forward to this year and look again,  I dont know that his message and approach changed minds,  or just made others that were like minded more comfortable with their views,  but this guy went from a card table and a sign,  to events that drew thousands and they were largely supportive of his message,  even if they didnt agree completely,  they respected his approach and wanted to step up and talk with the guy.

the notion he was spreading hate is simply propaganda,  i rewatched his talk with a trans girl/boy this morning, I had seen it before,  he was totally respectful in his reply, courteous to the other person, and gave his opinion ( which was asked for)  he ended it with his hopes for him/her was that they would be able to find piece with their body,  how is that hate?

I think it’s more that people hate hearing a differing opinion and they conflate the two.  The total lack of any effort on many libs parts before just resorting to Nazi, Racist, and Hitler name calling tells you what you need to know about the political discourse today. They come into a thread and assert with absolutely no facts that someone else promotes “hate speech”. When challenged to come up with an example, they run away.   PF is pretty much the only exception to the hit and run philosophy on this site.

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This demonstrates how the average liberal researched Charlie Kirk before blasting him as a hater.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09...realizing/