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Vikings trade for Jordan Mason
#31
(6 hours ago)purplefaithful Wrote: As it should, especially with a rook at QB. But it's KOC we're talking about here lol. Maybe that'll go to 45.9%???

I'm thinking of those 3rd/4th down and short situations, red zone running futilities from 24...

I have no pre-tenses this guy solves everything, but him + the OL improvements? Thats a big deal.

I'm still figuring this out from the 49'ers perspective; They gained just a 6th round pick and moved-up a few slots in this years 6th. 

Was this about $$$? Was it the 2nd round tender they placed on him? The $5.3mm tender that resulted in?

49ers need to get younger and cheaper since they are up against the cap.  Re-signing Mason wasn't in their long-term plans with CMC there so it's probably more of get something for him now and replace him with a rookie RB in a deep class.
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I get the guy was leading the league in rushing after the first month of the season and showed some ability, but why make this move with a historically deep and talented running back draft coming up? We could of essentially had out choice (probably) out of any of them not named Jeanty. We could have had a rookie stud at the position on a 4 or 5 year contract but instead we get Mason for 2. I think this is a questionable move especially if we are passing up Omarion Hampton, Henderson etc in the draft because we made this move for Mason.
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(2 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: I get the guy was leading the league in rushing after the first month of the season and showed some ability, but why make this move with a historically deep and talented running back draft coming up? We could of essentially had out choice (probably) out of any of them not named Jeanty. We could have had a rookie stud at the position on a 4 or 5 year contract but instead we get Mason for 2. I think this is a questionable move especially if we are passing up Omarion Hampton, Henderson etc in the draft because we made this move for Mason.

Why does adding Mason prevent us from taking a back in the draft? I think it better allows us to go BPA with our first pick, but I fully expect this team to draft a back.
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#34
(2 hours ago)MaroonBells Wrote: Why does adding Mason prevent us from taking a back in the draft? I think it better allows us to go BPA with our first pick, but I fully expect this team to draft a back.

I'd bet it reduces the possibility significantly (at least early) when the table was set perfectly for us to do so. Nobody ever accused Kwesi of being able to read a draft that's for sure.
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#35
(2 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: I'd bet it reduces the possibility significantly (at least early) when the table was set perfectly for us to do so. Nobody ever accused Kwesi of being able to read a draft that's for sure.

So adding some size and physicality to a RB room that desperately needed it, and doing that at virtually no cost, is a dumb move because it’s a good RB class?

Adding Mason puts us in a better position to take the best player available regardless of need. That really should be the goal of free agency for every GM.
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#36
(2 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: I get the guy was leading the league in rushing after the first month of the season and showed some ability, but why make this move with a historically deep and talented running back draft coming up? We could of essentially had out choice (probably) out of any of them not named Jeanty. We could have had a rookie stud at the position on a 4 or 5 year contract but instead we get Mason for 2. I think this is a questionable move especially if we are passing up Omarion Hampton, Henderson etc in the draft because we made this move for Mason.

I think all this does is puts us in position to go BPA. Jones is basically on a 1 year deal. Mason 2 years. If RB2 is on the board, which is dubious at best, we amplify a strong position. 

The other thing is rookies are still rookies. You don’t know for sure what they’re going to do at the next level with any certainty. We can speculate but a proven quantity who is young and cheap is a nice card going into the draft.
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#37
(2 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: I'd bet it reduces the possibility significantly (at least early) when the table was set perfectly for us to do so. Nobody ever accused Kwesi of being able to read a draft that's for sure.

Not following you here at all.  You add a horse for two years at virtually no cost and save a draft pick.  This guy is guaranteed to perform while a rookie is not.  We’re also dreadfully short of draft picks and have multiple needs. We got a cheap young player, hardly a bad move.  Lol
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#38
(1 hour ago)MaroonBells Wrote: So adding some size and physicality to a RB room that desperately needed it, and doing that at virtually no cost, is a dumb move because it’s a good RB class?

Adding Mason puts us in a better position to take the best player available regardless of need. That really should be the goal of free agency for every GM.

I just think in a historically loaded RB draft class, you don't address your need there by trading assets and handing out free agency money when you are positioned to land one of the elite prospects in the draft on a rookie contract. It's called reading the strengths of a draft and projecting where those strengths land when building a roster. We did this same stupid shit when we signed Josh Oliver in a very deep TE draft. Like I said, nobody ever accused Kwesi on being able to identify and navigate the strengths of a draft board.
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#39
I agree, great move, Kwazy is killing it.
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(52 minutes ago)supafreak84 Wrote: I just think in a historically loaded RB draft class, you don't address your need there by trading assets and handing out free agency money when you are positioned to land one of the elite prospects in the draft on a rookie contract. It's called reading the strengths of a draft and projecting where those strengths land when building a roster. We did this same stupid shit when we signed Josh Oliver in a very deep TE draft. Like I said, nobody ever accused Kwesi on being able to identify and navigate the strengths of a draft board.

Trading away assets? Free agency money? Neither of those dogs hunt. Cmon. Those assets are on rounding error on a balance sheet. The money is at the bottom end of the 51 counting against the cap.
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