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08-01-2023, 08:28 PM

Quote: @purplefaithful said:

@medaille said:

@kmillard said:
Last good guard was hutch. Bring him in ASAP!
I don't think it's settled that Risner is "good".

It’s kind of interesting the PFF grades of all the guards
involved. Both Cleveland and Ingram suck
at pass blocking but excel at run blocking but Dalton is equally as polarized
but in the opposite direction. I mostly
find it interesting how Cleveland is 12 points better than Dalton overall
despite being so bad at pass protection.

Overall:
Dalton: 61.1

Cleveland: 73.5

Ingram: 57.1

Pass Blocking:

Dalton: 72.6

Cleveland: 54.1

Ingram: 42.6

Run Blocking:

Dalton: 53.4

Cleveland: 79.4

Ingram: 64.2

Its obvious here where he excels vs Cleveland or Ingram...With a statue in Kirko, a good pass blocking OG might not be a bad idea.

Hell, maybe they are thinking about Risner vs Bradbury?

The pressure up the middle on our QB since he got here is ridiculous.

Have we ever seen GB @ OG?

Thought the same PF. From SI.
“Risner went to Kansas State for college, where he started 50 of 51 games playing over 3,000 snaps on offense. Most of his action came as the Wildcats' right tackle, but he played 900 snaps as the center during the 2015 season as the starter.
During that 2015 season, Risner graded out well from Pro Football Focus as a run-blocker (87.9) and pass-blocker (84.7), allowing eight pressures with no sacks. It was the best grade he garnered for run-blocking during his collegiate “

08-01-2023, 08:39 PM

Quote: @Bullazin said:

@purplefaithful said:

@medaille said:

@kmillard said:
Last good guard was hutch. Bring him in ASAP!
I don't think it's settled that Risner is "good".

It’s kind of interesting the PFF grades of all the guards
involved. Both Cleveland and Ingram suck
at pass blocking but excel at run blocking but Dalton is equally as polarized
but in the opposite direction. I mostly
find it interesting how Cleveland is 12 points better than Dalton overall
despite being so bad at pass protection.

Overall:
Dalton: 61.1

Cleveland: 73.5

Ingram: 57.1

Pass Blocking:

Dalton: 72.6

Cleveland: 54.1

Ingram: 42.6

Run Blocking:

Dalton: 53.4

Cleveland: 79.4

Ingram: 64.2

Its obvious here where he excels vs Cleveland or Ingram...With a statue in Kirko, a good pass blocking OG might not be a bad idea.

Hell, maybe they are thinking about Risner vs Bradbury?

The pressure up the middle on our QB since he got here is ridiculous.

Have we ever seen GB @ OG?

Thought the same PF. From SI.
“Risner went to Kansas State for college, where he started 50 of 51 games playing over 3,000 snaps on offense. Most of his action came as the Wildcats' right tackle, but he played 900 snaps as the center during the 2015 season as the starter.
During that 2015 season, Risner graded out well from Pro Football Focus as a run-blocker (87.9) and pass-blocker (84.7), allowing eight pressures with no sacks. It was the best grade he garnered for run-blocking during his collegiate “

The danger here of course is potentially weakening a position with a move, but you never know what they're thinking - and they sure wont tell us ahead of time.

08-01-2023, 09:54 PM

https://twitter.com/BenGoessling/status/...81632?s=20

08-01-2023, 09:57 PM

When asked if the Vikings have worked out Risner on the field, O'Connell responded, "It's just been meetings and getting him a physical. Then just some dialogue. He has a relationship previously with our o-line coach. I had never met him before. Getting him in the building in a setting where we can get to know him a little better."
Current Vikings offensive line coach Chris Kuper and assistant offensive line coach Justin Ruscati were both with the Broncos from 2019-2021, so they have familiarity with Risner.
"It's great to have this process to help worth through making sure it's a great fit and that it works for both sides," said O'Connell.
The Vikings head coach wouldn't get into specifics of how he sees Risner fitting in the Vikings offensive line.
"That's not anything that I can say as far as what his role or his responsibility would be depth chart wise," said O'Connell. "It would be purely speculation on my part to envision what a player, not on our team, would potentially do to that situation."
Risner's pass blocking grade, according to PFF, was 18.5 points higher than Cleveland's and 30 points higher than Ingram's in 2022. Cleveland and Ingram both had better run blocking grades than Risner.
"One thing I will say is we want this to be as competitive at all positions as we can," O'Connell said. "We've got great competition already at that position... Purely something about taking something where we feel is pretty strong and investigating the possibility of making it even better."
https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/dalton-risner-visits-vikings-would-he-upgrade-the-offensive-line

08-01-2023, 10:24 PM

More “reckless speculation” from Skor North on Risner

08-02-2023, 02:46 AM

Quote: @medaille said:

@kmillard said:
Last good guard was hutch. Bring him in ASAP!
I don't think it's settled that Risner is "good".

It’s kind of interesting the PFF grades of all the guards
involved. Both Cleveland and Ingram suck
at pass blocking but excel at run blocking but Dalton is equally as polarized
but in the opposite direction. I mostly
find it interesting how Cleveland is 12 points better than Dalton overall
despite being so bad at pass protection.

Overall:
Dalton: 61.1

Cleveland: 73.5

Ingram: 57.1

Pass Blocking:

Dalton: 72.6

Cleveland: 54.1

Ingram: 42.6

Run Blocking:

Dalton: 53.4

Cleveland: 79.4

Ingram: 64.2

08-02-2023, 10:48 AM

My guess Risner is asking for more than Minnesota is comfortable paying. I get it from his perspective.

08-02-2023, 02:54 PM

Quote: @StickyBun said:
My guess Risner is asking for more than Minnesota is comfortable paying. I get it from his perspective.

I think the fact that he’s still on the market would suggest
that he’s been asking for more than the market wants to give him and either he’s
coming down in price as he tries to find a team or hoping that some teams need
goes up as they see what they actually have.

08-02-2023, 06:39 PM

With cap space available, sign this guy. I'd rather have him and minimal cap space than have massive gaps at Guard and the cap space.

Disappointing if he left without a contract

08-02-2023, 06:47 PM

Quote: @Skodin said:
With cap space available, sign this guy. I'd rather have him and minimal cap space than have massive gaps at Guard and the cap space.

Disappointing if he left without a contract

we dont know what his ask was, nor what TJ, JJ or Darrisaws agents are eyeing for their next deals, having a little left over is not a bad thing. oh and we will still need to pay a starting QB next year, assuming Hall isnt a later round phenom.