Quote: @DeepFreeze05 said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
It's like a re-run of the Tice and Frazier years, only with far more talent and resources, yet we get the same result.
"We're not built like that."
Childress should be added to that list.
"Childress has built the Vikings into a run-first, low-risk outfit that relies on a sound defense and a take-what-it-can-get offense to succeed. One problem with that is they're not made for big rallies."https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/261030016
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I believe the Vikings were the #1 ranked rushing defense entering the game. They were so dominating at stopping the run there some talks starting up comparing them to some of the best rush defenses of all time.
If I remember correctly, after that Patriots victory. Belichick was asked to provide his thoughts as to why they passed so much and his comment was something like: Well, they have the #1 rush defense, why run at them?
That game was something of a blue print because after that most of the opponents came out throwing and continued throwing.----------------------------
Here's an article posted nearly two years ago (30 Sep 19): Adam Thielen challenges Vikings offense: 'You have to be able to throw the ball' The Vikings offense was nonexistent as Dalvin Cook was shut down by the Bears defense.
"The Chicago Bears defense made sure the Minnesota Vikings knew their game plan early, shut down Dalvin Cook and make Kirk Cousins beat them. Cook was held to 14 carries for 35 yards and a touchdown as
the Vikings were held to just 40 rushing yards, putting the game on
Cousins' shoulders. The Vikings quarterback did not rise up to the
challenge, finishing 27-of-36 for 233 yards with no touchdowns and no
interceptions in a 16-6 loss to the Bears."https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/adam-thielen-challenges-vikings-offense-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-the-ball/
...and yet no mention of the o-line or porous defense preventing the fan's wet dream of any QB rising to the mystical challenge...amazing.
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@ DeepFreeze05 said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
It's like a re-run of the Tice and Frazier years, only with far more talent and resources, yet we get the same result.
"We're not built like that."
Childress should be added to that list.
"Childress has built the Vikings into a run-first, low-risk outfit that relies on a sound defense and a take-what-it-can-get offense to succeed. One problem with that is they're not made for big rallies."https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/261030016
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I believe the Vikings were the #1 ranked rushing defense entering the game. They were so dominating at stopping the run there some talks starting up comparing them to some of the best rush defenses of all time.
If I remember correctly, after that Patriots victory. Belichick was asked to provide his thoughts as to why they passed so much and his comment was something like: Well, they have the #1 rush defense, why run at them?
That game was something of a blue print because after that most of the opponents came out throwing and continued throwing.----------------------------
Here's an article posted nearly two years ago (30 Sep 19): Adam Thielen challenges Vikings offense: 'You have to be able to throw the ball' The Vikings offense was nonexistent as Dalvin Cook was shut down by the Bears defense.
"The Chicago Bears defense made sure the Minnesota Vikings knew their game plan early, shut down Dalvin Cook and make Kirk Cousins beat them. Cook was held to 14 carries for 35 yards and a touchdown as
the Vikings were held to just 40 rushing yards, putting the game on
Cousins' shoulders. The Vikings quarterback did not rise up to the
challenge, finishing 27-of-36 for 233 yards with no touchdowns and no
interceptions in a 16-6 loss to the Bears."https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/adam-thielen-challenges-vikings-offense-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-the-ball/
...and yet no mention of the o-line or porous defense preventing the fan's wet dream of any QB rising to the mystical challenge...amazing.
Just looked up PFF on our o-line in 2019. See if this sounds painfully true, today:
"PFF Data Scientist Timo Riske discussed the success that the Vikings have had in protecting Kirk Cousins due largely to scheme and how they could be in store for regression in the coming weeks given their 24th-ranked pass-blocking grade at the time. In Week 16 against the Packers, Cousins was under pressure on 47.2% of his dropbacks (fourth-highest rate that week) and has managed just 35 passing yards on his 17 pressured dropbacks. As a unit, the Vikings’ offensive line now ranks just 27th
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@ DeepFreeze05 said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
It's like a re-run of the Tice and Frazier years, only with far more talent and resources, yet we get the same result.
"We're not built like that."
Childress should be added to that list.
"Childress has built the Vikings into a run-first, low-risk outfit that relies on a sound defense and a take-what-it-can-get offense to succeed. One problem with that is they're not made for big rallies."https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/261030016
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I believe the Vikings were the #1 ranked rushing defense entering the game. They were so dominating at stopping the run there some talks starting up comparing them to some of the best rush defenses of all time.
If I remember correctly, after that Patriots victory. Belichick was asked to provide his thoughts as to why they passed so much and his comment was something like: Well, they have the #1 rush defense, why run at them?
That game was something of a blue print because after that most of the opponents came out throwing and continued throwing.----------------------------
Here's an article posted nearly two years ago (30 Sep 19): Adam Thielen challenges Vikings offense: 'You have to be able to throw the ball' The Vikings offense was nonexistent as Dalvin Cook was shut down by the Bears defense.
"The Chicago Bears defense made sure the Minnesota Vikings knew their game plan early, shut down Dalvin Cook and make Kirk Cousins beat them. Cook was held to 14 carries for 35 yards and a touchdown as
the Vikings were held to just 40 rushing yards, putting the game on
Cousins' shoulders. The Vikings quarterback did not rise up to the
challenge, finishing 27-of-36 for 233 yards with no touchdowns and no
interceptions in a 16-6 loss to the Bears."https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/adam-thielen-challenges-vikings-offense-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-the-ball/
...and yet no mention of the o-line or porous defense preventing the fan's wet dream of any QB rising to the mystical challenge...amazing. Although the Vikings only scored 6 points in that game, Cousins stats doesn't look bad. Did you know that the Vikings were 2-1 entering that game, and after Thielen expressed his frustration, the Vikings pulls off four in a row, and six of the next seven.
Quote: @DeepFreeze05 said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
@ DeepFreeze05 said:
Here's an article posted nearly two years ago (30 Sep 19): Adam Thielen challenges Vikings offense: 'You have to be able to throw the ball' The Vikings offense was nonexistent as Dalvin Cook was shut down by the Bears defense.
"The Chicago Bears defense made sure the Minnesota Vikings knew their game plan early, shut down Dalvin Cook and make Kirk Cousins beat them. Cook was held to 14 carries for 35 yards and a touchdown as
the Vikings were held to just 40 rushing yards, putting the game on
Cousins' shoulders. The Vikings quarterback did not rise up to the
challenge, finishing 27-of-36 for 233 yards with no touchdowns and no
interceptions in a 16-6 loss to the Bears."https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/adam-thielen-challenges-vikings-offense-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-the-ball/
...and yet no mention of the o-line or porous defense preventing the fan's wet dream of any QB rising to the mystical challenge...amazing. Although the Vikings only scored 6 points in that game, Cousins stats doesn't look bad. Did you know that the Vikings were 2-1 entering that game, and after Thielen expressed his frustration, the Vikings pulls off four in a row, and six of the next seven.
The following also occurred during that loss to Chicago:"Diggs had to be
calmed down at one point during the game last weekend during yet another
stifling performance by Chicago’s defense that limited Thielen to 6
yards on two receptions, and Thielen was vocal afterward about his
frustration. Cousins even apologized to him on a team-produced podcast
for overthrowing a deep pass on third down in the first half after
Thielen got behind the secondary for what would have been a touchdown.
Zimmer’s
desire to run the ball more effectively and frequently this year has
minimized to date the route-running and pass-catching talents of Thielen
and Diggs, which can be dismissed if the ground game leads to wins. But
the Vikings (2-2) are in last place in a daunting NFC North, with the
second-fewest passing yards per game in the league."
https://apnews.com/article/4b5d6361f7364...d507c9d5d7
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@ DeepFreeze05 said:
Here's an article posted nearly two years ago (30 Sep 19): Adam Thielen challenges Vikings offense: 'You have to be able to throw the ball' The Vikings offense was nonexistent as Dalvin Cook was shut down by the Bears defense.
"The Chicago Bears defense made sure the Minnesota Vikings knew their game plan early, shut down Dalvin Cook and make Kirk Cousins beat them. Cook was held to 14 carries for 35 yards and a touchdown as
the Vikings were held to just 40 rushing yards, putting the game on
Cousins' shoulders. The Vikings quarterback did not rise up to the
challenge, finishing 27-of-36 for 233 yards with no touchdowns and no
interceptions in a 16-6 loss to the Bears."https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/adam-thielen-challenges-vikings-offense-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-the-ball/
...and yet no mention of the o-line or porous defense preventing the fan's wet dream of any QB rising to the mystical challenge... amazing. October 24, 2019: You like this? Kirk Cousins an MVP candidate
"The Minnesota Vikings aren't one-dimensional anymore thanks to Cousins,
who has revived the team's passing game following a rough September. He
has thrown for 976 yards, 10 touchdowns, only one interception and has
completed 75.6% of his passes in October."https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/10/24/you-like-this-kirk-cousins-an-mvp-candidate/40408245/
October 31, 2019: Kirk Cousins named NFC Offensive Player of the Month, Thielen Returns to Practice"Since issuing a public apology to Adam Thielen, all Kirk Cousins has
done is put up some of the best numbers in the NFL in getting the
Minnesota Vikings four straight wins."https://www.fox9.com/sports/kirk-cousins-named-nfc-offensive-player-of-the-month-thielen-returns-to-practice
November 19, 2019: Kirk Cousins deserves his name in the MVP talks"Cousins has had his ups and downs in
Minnesota, but statistically speaking he is on pace to not only have a
great season, but also have one of the best seasons in Vikings history.
It is time to negate the narratives that hang over Cousins head, and put
his name alongside the other candidates for MVP of the 2019 season."https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/19/kirk-cousins-vikings-mvp/
November 19, 2019: StaTuesday: It's time to consider Vikings' Cousins an NFL MVP candidate
"Since Minnesota’s 28-10 victory over the New York Giants on Oct. 6 — a
win that launched the Vikings’ current 6-1 stretch into the bye —
Cousins tops all quarterbacks in touchdowns (18), passer rating (126.5)
and passes of 50+ yards (4) and ranks second in yards (2,021) as well as
passes over 20 yards (31) and yards per attempt (9.1).
Cousins has tossed 177 passes without an interception, the longest active streak in the NFL.
On the season, Cousins leads the league in passes over 50 yards, ranks
second in touchdowns and passer rating and comes in at fifth in yards.
He ranks ahead of Rodgers and Watson in just about every category" https://www.foxsports.com/north/story/st...ate-111919
November 24, 2019: Cousins checks of all of the boxes during extended run of strong play
"As the Vikings reach their
off week as one of seven NFL teams with at least eight wins, it’s easy
to forget how tenuous it all seemed at the end of September, when Adam
Thielen vented about the Vikings’ lack of passing success in the locker
room at Soldier Field, and Stefon Diggs incurred more than $200,000 of
fines for skipping several days of meetings as his frustrations with the
offense bubbled over.
In
the Vikings’ only loss since then, to Kansas City in Week 9, they
allowed a 91-yard touchdown run and fell by a field goal as time ran
out. Cousins’ name has crept into MVP conversations, as the result of a
seven-game run in which he’s completed 73.3% of his passes for 2,020
yards and 18 touchdowns against one interception." https://www.startribune.com/vikings-kirk...fresh=true
December 19, 2019: 15 NFL surprises nobody saw coming in 2019, from Lamar Jackson's rise to crummy kicking
- Kirk Cousins would be a down-ballot MVP candidate"At the very least, if Cousins' inconsistent 2018 and frustrating start
to 2019 were evidence that his presence doesn't guarantee the Vikings a
playoff berth, what has happened since is a reminder that his ceiling is
higher than his critics suggest. Cousins has been one of the league's
most lethal quarterbacks over his past 10 outings."https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28325921/15-nfl-surprises-saw-coming-2019-lamar-jackson-rise-crummy-kicking
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