Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
Quote: @Zanary said:
Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
I actually think a mobile QB would solve a number of our OL "issues".
Was the offense the overarching problem? Our line is bad for our QB, and he still had one of, if not the best statistical year in his career. The fact is our defense sucking like a junior girl's soccer league is the reason we're sitting at home for the playoffs. I can't recall a game where I said if only we had Watson, we would have won that game.
Kirk's not perfect. The offensive play calling from Kubiak left a lot to be desired. Biggest thing is we need as many as 5 players on defense, and at least 2 on offense. That's a lot of holes to fill. Giving up that kind of booty for a QB in our particular situation would be insane.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ Zanary said:
Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
I actually think a mobile QB would solve a number of our OL "issues".
Didn't solve Houston's.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ Zanary said:
Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
I actually think a mobile QB would solve a number of our OL "issues".
Didn't solve Houston's.
To be fair Houston has so many other issues such as being fucked over by Bill O'Brien.
If we wanna say the cost is too high then that’s fair and that’s one thing. But insinuating Kirk is Watson’s equal is laughable. Kirk is a good QB but Watson is better. I’m pretty sure every GM in the league would trade Kirk for Watson straight up.
Also, if Guru is right and the Vikings could actually get a 2021 first for Kirk (I personally doubt that), they should think long and hard about doing it!
Draft a QB, sign Dalton or Fitzpatrick, save money, maybe recoup our second rounder... seems like a big win for a team counting on Hunter’s health, Pierce’s weight, new coaches yet again, and maybe or maybe not Barr to get us over the hump next year.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
I agree with Guru and that’s why I said we’d have to throw in JJ too. And it sounds like maybe even more. Some in this thread are seriously underestimating Watson and/or the value of an elite QB.
Half the franchises in the NFL have never once in their team history had a top 5 QB at any given time. They win games and they sell tickets.
The best season the Vikings have had in the past 20 years was the one season we got top 5 QB play (Favre, 2009).
Watson is also the "style" of QB which is highly desired right now: athletic and mobile like Mahomes and Wilson. I think there are teams who might see him at least as valuable as Trevor Lawrence considering his athleticism and proven ability to play in the NFL.
Some fans here might be fooled into thinking he could be acquired for just a few picks because they accepted the idea Diggs for 1 premium draft pick (which, regardless of how well it turned out, was a huge gamble) and a handful of day 3 picks was "a haul". Diggs forced his way out and lowered our leverage to trade him, but it wouldn't be the same with Watson.
Quote:Profootballtalk.com says:
So how high will it go? Based on conversations with multiple General Managers, the loose consensus was three first-round draft picks. As one G.M. put it, if the first of the first-round picks lands in the top 10 of the 2021 draft, that would help get it done
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ Zanary said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ Zanary said:
Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
I actually think a mobile QB would solve a number of our OL "issues".
Didn't solve Houston's.
To be fair Houston has so many other issues such as being fucked over by Bill O'Brien.
...and both of our lines are needing addressing, our secondary is half brittle children, but we still put up the 3rd highest point total in team history.
I just don't see Cousins as the problem, especially with a season of timing/chemistry with Jefferson in the books. I don't WANT to start over at QB again, and I've seen trends come and go (look at Vick! RGIII! We need a mobile QB!!) while Brady, Mannings, and Roethlisberger were stacking multiple rings each.
Russell Wilson, golden boy of the NFL and prototypical running QB, is watching the rest of the playoffs from his couch (or, on Ciara). Mahomes is obviously special, but can he repeat? We'll see.
I think the trends get overblown, albeit because they do make for exciting footage.
I'd just prefer that the team work at fixing its issues rather than trying to sidestep them after what was actually a very productive season on offense.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ Vikergirl said:
@ Zanary said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ Zanary said:
Hell, no. Watson is THE LESSON: no matter how good your QB, the team can still blow the season.
Trading for him instead of fixing the gaping line issues would be stupidity to rival the Walker fiasco.
I actually think a mobile QB would solve a number of our OL "issues".
Didn't solve Houston's.
To be fair Houston has so many other issues such as being fucked over by Bill O'Brien.
...and both of our lines are needing addressing, our secondary is half brittle children, but we still put up the 3rd highest point total in team history.
I just don't see Cousins as the problem, especially with a season of timing/chemistry with Jefferson in the books. I don't WANT to start over at QB again, and I've seen trends come and go (look at Vick! RGIII! We need a mobile QB!!) while Brady, Mannings, and Roethlisberger were stacking multiple rings each.
Russell Wilson, golden boy of the NFL and prototypical running QB, is watching the rest of the playoffs from his couch ( or, on Ciara). Mahomes is obviously special, but can he repeat? We'll see.
I think the trends get overblown, albeit because they do make for exciting footage.
I'd just prefer that the team work at fixing its issues rather than trying to sidestep them after what was actually a very productive season on offense.
At the bold....
"Poor" Russ!
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