Quote: @1VikesFan said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Kaepernick's protest didn't have a damn thing to do with the military or veterans.
It was a protest about inequality in the United States, which by the way, is also represented by the flag and national anthem.
Cause only liberal groups have the right to pick and choose what they’re offended by. A military vet hasn’t earned that.
Okay, if you say so.
Brilliant reply. Lol
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Kaepernick's protest didn't have a damn thing to do with the military or veterans.
It was a protest about inequality in the United States, which by the way, is also represented by the flag and national anthem.
Cause only liberal groups have the right to pick and choose what they’re offended by. A military vet hasn’t earned that.
Okay, if you say so.
Brilliant reply. Lol
If you all cant be civil in disagreement you wont be in these threads.
If you are baited please walk away, people cant argue with themselves.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Ilovebigtd's said:
@ Waterboy said:
Hard pass. Keep his ass as far away from this team and community as possible.
why?
Because he’s divisive and could less care about the impacts on his team,. He would rather be in the spotlight to rant his political beliefs. And, I personally think the symbol he chose to utilize in protest is absolutely deplorable. I know far too many military veterans who have greatly sacrificed to fight for this country. And any overlap that is confused with their service is deplorable and unacceptable.
here we go with the “my friends are veterans” response. Do any of you know what mutually exclusive means? How about strawmen? You can believe in his fight and believe that there are good cops in this country. you can belive in police authority abuses and supporting the troops, good cops, good civil servants
btw your “friends” are fighting, with a nice compensation package i might add, to defend his, yours, and my right for freedom aka his right to free speech
Yeah, that nice compensation package really makes up for my friend who is now suffering through ALS which is 2-3 times more likely in individuals who served in our military and compensated by the VA because there’s a known link. What a dumb f..king statement and lack of understanding of the contributions of those protecting your ass from all the evils in this world. This country isn’t perfect, but it deserves a helluva lot more respect than this ass clown is giving it. And while he has the right to do as he pleases, he may understand how hypocritical kneeling is in the country with some of the greatest privileges and opportunities on this earth. He can do as he pleases, but as I’ve said, I would never root for the guy. That being said, I just realized from your post how ungrateful and stupid people are in this country. Yeah our military members are greatly overpaid. The dumbest comment I’ve read in some time.
How many kids that are sent to war do it for freedom? Would do it without the compensation package? Do you understand the history of military recruitment? The military has to glamorize it’s recruitment because they can’t even hit numbers anymore. Video game tournaments and heightened recruitment strategies in low income neighborhoods. Fucking praying on the poor to go over to the Middle East and fight wars for politicians. It’s a bastardization of the US military’s ideals, but they have sold out. Why don’t you save your indignity for this instead of someone who is pointing out the facts
Your friend can be a good person, a good soldier AND the military looks for the poor to be body bag pawns in the military defense complex. This is exactly the point of my post which you didn’t respond to, things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Again, Kaepnerick’s protest is about US Police Department issues in the black community, why you decided to bring in veterans is the definition of a straw man.
Man, you’re a fu..ing idiot. You’re argument spins all over the place and makes no sense whatsoever. I really don’t mind when idiots like you disagree with me. It validates my POV. And God you’re a POS.
Yes I am a POS as well as Green Beret Nate Boyer who convinced Kaep to do what he did.
You brought up veterans, about Kapernick’s US police protest, wrong
Then you replied to my comment about the military being compensated to do their job which i Then I backed up my point with the explanation of my statement. You didn’t refute.
You have not answered the original question nor can agree to the basic statement of these things aren’t mutually exclusive.
All this intellectual dishonesty from you and I’m the POS. I guess
Kaep’s protest was not about military members, and if anything he was using the right they defend.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ Ilovebigtd's said:
@ Waterboy said:
Hard pass. Keep his ass as far away from this team and community as possible.
why?
Because he’s divisive and could less care about the impacts on his team,. He would rather be in the spotlight to rant his political beliefs. And, I personally think the symbol he chose to utilize in protest is absolutely deplorable. I know far too many military veterans who have greatly sacrificed to fight for this country. And any overlap that is confused with their service is deplorable and unacceptable.
here we go with the “my friends are veterans” response. Do any of you know what mutually exclusive means? How about strawmen? You can believe in his fight and believe that there are good cops in this country. you can belive in police authority abuses and supporting the troops, good cops, good civil servants
btw your “friends” are fighting, with a nice compensation package i might add, to defend his, yours, and my right for freedom aka his right to free speech
Yeah, that nice compensation package really makes up for my friend who is now suffering through ALS which is 2-3 times more likely in individuals who served in our military and compensated by the VA because there’s a known link. What a dumb f..king statement and lack of understanding of the contributions of those protecting your ass from all the evils in this world. This country isn’t perfect, but it deserves a helluva lot more respect than this ass clown is giving it. And while he has the right to do as he pleases, he may understand how hypocritical kneeling is in the country with some of the greatest privileges and opportunities on this earth. He can do as he pleases, but as I’ve said, I would never root for the guy. That being said, I just realized from your post how ungrateful and stupid people are in this country. Yeah our military members are greatly overpaid. The dumbest comment I’ve read in some time.
How many kids that are sent to war do it for freedom? Would do it without the compensation package? Do you understand the history of military recruitment? The military has to glamorize it’s recruitment because they can’t even hit numbers anymore. Video game tournaments and heightened recruitment strategies in low income neighborhoods. Fucking praying on the poor to go over to the Middle East and fight wars for politicians. It’s a bastardization of the US military’s ideals, but they have sold out. Why don’t you save your indignity for this instead of someone who is pointing out the facts
Your friend can be a good person, a good soldier AND the military looks for the poor to be body bag pawns in the military defense complex. This is exactly the point of my post which you didn’t respond to, things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Again, Kaepnerick’s protest is about US Police Department issues in the black community, why you decided to bring in veterans is the definition of a straw man.
Man, you’re a fu..ing idiot. You’re argument spins all over the place and makes no sense whatsoever. I really don’t mind when idiots like you disagree with me. It validates my POV. And God you’re a POS.
Yes I am a POS as well as Green Beret Nate Boyer who convinced Kaep to do what he did.
You brought up veterans, about Kapernick’s US police protest, wrong
Then you replied to my comment about the military being compensated to do their job which i Then I backed up my point with the explanation of my statement. You didn’t refute.
You have not answered the original question nor can agree to the basic statement of these things aren’t mutually exclusive.
All this intellectual dishonesty from you and I’m the POS. I guess
Kaep’s protest was not about military members, and if anything he was using the right they defend.
He won't be responding because he was removed from the thread for his previous response.
This is simple, these threads will not exist if we see personal attacks to demean or belittle other posters positions.
If people want to share opinions fine, you dont have to agree, but as soon as people start go do more than civilly disagree they will bet tossed from the thread and if continues or becomes just a constant disagreement then the thread goes to the ST board.
I think the real challenge of Kaepernick isn't so much about the PR, good or bad, related to signing him - the problem would be, what if they had to cut him?
Regardless of what anyone feels about how good he was when he did play, he is 32, had some injuries, and has been away from football for 4 seasons. There is definitely a fair risk that he wouldn't be a strong player. So imagine the Vikings sign him, and then waive him before the season starts (or at any time)? Will they be credited for giving him a fair shot - or accused of further discrimination or participating in a conspiracy to keep him out of the league? Could waiving him create further civil anger? Do they have to keep another QB like Mannion on the roster and give Kaepernick a free roster spot to avoid criticism?
I'm not defending him being out of the league all this time, but the next team that signs him (if any does) will be the one receiving blame if they cut him - maybe even if they don't make him their starter.
I could see Kaepernick being a Josh Hamilton type situation, out of baseball for 4-5 years, plays 2 months of minor league ball and the next year crushing it in the big leagues. Kaepernick would have the experience, the question for me is whether he has the drive. We already got rid of QB that didn't appear to be to into the X's and O's that was our developmental QB.
Why in the world do people keep beating this dead horse? If any team was going to sign Kaep, it would have happened by now. The media just has to keep pushing to divide
Quote: @Hidalgo said:
Why in the world do people keep beating this dead horse? If any team was going to sign Kaep, it would have happened by now. The media just has to keep pushing to divide
Because it still sells.
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