Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ pumpf said:
In case anyone was wondering... here's who Obama gave the Medal of Freedom to. Please feel free to explain how Rush is not just as worthy as some of these folks:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Ellen DeGeneres
Robert De Niro
Bill and Melinda Gates
Tom Hanks
Michael Jordan
Lorne Michaels (???)
Robert Redford
Diana Ross
Vin Scully
Bruce Springsteen
Cicely Tyson
I'm sure we could find dirty on any one of these past winners...But heck, outside of Degeneres, I'm not seeing how any of these are a big fat FU to the other party (or other americans) as blatantly as Rush Limbaugh.
The leaving Pelosi hanging on a hand-shake and ripping-up of speeches is just the tip of the iceberg on how polarized Washington and the country is...
2020 is re-kindling memories of 68-73 for this 50 some year old...
thats the point, you agree with their political views so when they have spoken up/out you dont get irritated at their positions. get rid of Rush's slant and just look at what he did for talk radio and his "contribution" was just as significant as most on the list above. (and I didnt listen to him much back then or at all in the last 20 years, but I know that he was as big to talk radio in the last 25 years as anybody.)
No doubt that Limbaugh's contribution to talk radio has been huge. But there's also no doubt that Harvey Weinstein's contribution to film has also been huge. Doesn't mean I'd be OK with anyone giving him an award and ignoring that he, like Limbaugh, is also a piece of shit.
and it goes back to a person could likely find shit on many of those listed above if they were so inclined to go digging. for me I dont give a shit, it was a political FU and nothing more, its not like that award has significant meaning to the citizens of the country or else those getting it would be open to more scrutiny than "the president thought he/she was deserving"
I don't think it's a political FU as much as it is an FU to civility, to decency, or as Lincoln put it, the better angels of our nature.
nope, pretty much just at Nancy and her band of merry followers.
LOL
The false equivalency at work is impressive
It has zero to do with Rush’s politics
It has everything to do with the fact he is a racist piece of shit and spent decades to encourage others to also act the same and there isnt any digging required to figure that out
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ pumpf said:
In case anyone was wondering... here's who Obama gave the Medal of Freedom to. Please feel free to explain how Rush is not just as worthy as some of these folks:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Ellen DeGeneres
Robert De Niro
Bill and Melinda Gates
Tom Hanks
Michael Jordan
Lorne Michaels (???)
Robert Redford
Diana Ross
Vin Scully
Bruce Springsteen
Cicely Tyson
I'm sure we could find dirty on any one of these past winners...But heck, outside of Degeneres, I'm not seeing how any of these are a big fat FU to the other party (or other americans) as blatantly as Rush Limbaugh.
The leaving Pelosi hanging on a hand-shake and ripping-up of speeches is just the tip of the iceberg on how polarized Washington and the country is...
2020 is re-kindling memories of 68-73 for this 50 some year old...
thats the point, you agree with their political views so when they have spoken up/out you dont get irritated at their positions. get rid of Rush's slant and just look at what he did for talk radio and his "contribution" was just as significant as most on the list above. (and I didnt listen to him much back then or at all in the last 20 years, but I know that he was as big to talk radio in the last 25 years as anybody.)
No doubt that Limbaugh's contribution to talk radio has been huge. But there's also no doubt that Harvey Weinstein's contribution to film has also been huge. Doesn't mean I'd be OK with anyone giving him an award and ignoring that he, like Limbaugh, is also a piece of shit.
and it goes back to a person could likely find shit on many of those listed above if they were so inclined to go digging. for me I dont give a shit, it was a political FU and nothing more, its not like that award has significant meaning to the citizens of the country or else those getting it would be open to more scrutiny than "the president thought he/she was deserving"
I don't think it's a political FU as much as it is an FU to civility, to decency, or as Lincoln put it, the better angels of our nature.
nope, pretty much just at Nancy and her band of merry followers.
LOL
The false equivalency at work is impressive
It has zero to do with Rush’s politics
It has everything to do with the fact he is a racist piece of shit and spent decades to encourage others to also act the same and there isnt any digging required to figure that out
what has he said/done that is so racist? I am not a follower, but i have to believe that if he was openly racist that he wouldnt have been on so many radio stations. Or is this just another conservative + white man = racist situations?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ pumpf said:
In case anyone was wondering... here's who Obama gave the Medal of Freedom to. Please feel free to explain how Rush is not just as worthy as some of these folks:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Ellen DeGeneres
Robert De Niro
Bill and Melinda Gates
Tom Hanks
Michael Jordan
Lorne Michaels (???)
Robert Redford
Diana Ross
Vin Scully
Bruce Springsteen
Cicely Tyson
I'm sure we could find dirty on any one of these past winners...But heck, outside of Degeneres, I'm not seeing how any of these are a big fat FU to the other party (or other americans) as blatantly as Rush Limbaugh.
The leaving Pelosi hanging on a hand-shake and ripping-up of speeches is just the tip of the iceberg on how polarized Washington and the country is...
2020 is re-kindling memories of 68-73 for this 50 some year old...
thats the point, you agree with their political views so when they have spoken up/out you dont get irritated at their positions. get rid of Rush's slant and just look at what he did for talk radio and his "contribution" was just as significant as most on the list above. (and I didnt listen to him much back then or at all in the last 20 years, but I know that he was as big to talk radio in the last 25 years as anybody.)
No doubt that Limbaugh's contribution to talk radio has been huge. But there's also no doubt that Harvey Weinstein's contribution to film has also been huge. Doesn't mean I'd be OK with anyone giving him an award and ignoring that he, like Limbaugh, is also a piece of shit.
and it goes back to a person could likely find shit on many of those listed above if they were so inclined to go digging. for me I dont give a shit, it was a political FU and nothing more, its not like that award has significant meaning to the citizens of the country or else those getting it would be open to more scrutiny than "the president thought he/she was deserving"
I don't think it's a political FU as much as it is an FU to civility, to decency, or as Lincoln put it, the better angels of our nature.
nope, pretty much just at Nancy and her band of merry followers.
LOL
The false equivalency at work is impressive
It has zero to do with Rush’s politics
It has everything to do with the fact he is a racist piece of shit and spent decades to encourage others to also act the same and there isnt any digging required to figure that out
what has he said/done that is so racist? I am not a follower, but i have to believe that if he was openly racist that he wouldnt have been on so many radio stations. Or is this just another conservative + white man = racist situations?
You are welcome to read the thread on here about his song Barack the Magic Negro, or use google and find dozens of articles of his top 20 most racist comments, or you can pull the old standby “conservative white man victim card”.
Dude is infamous for his hateful sermons where he attacks everyone else and has all the dumbass white people believe they are the real victims in this country. He has played arguably the largest role in dividing this country than anyone besides Fox News.
My favorite is his bullshit opinion on how smoking wasnt that bad and 2nd hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer ... so he continued to smoke and lo and behold guess who gets lung cancer.
Karma is a sweet, sweet little bitch sometimes.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ pumpf said:
In case anyone was wondering... here's who Obama gave the Medal of Freedom to. Please feel free to explain how Rush is not just as worthy as some of these folks:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Ellen DeGeneres
Robert De Niro
Bill and Melinda Gates
Tom Hanks
Michael Jordan
Lorne Michaels (???)
Robert Redford
Diana Ross
Vin Scully
Bruce Springsteen
Cicely Tyson
I'm sure we could find dirty on any one of these past winners...But heck, outside of Degeneres, I'm not seeing how any of these are a big fat FU to the other party (or other americans) as blatantly as Rush Limbaugh.
The leaving Pelosi hanging on a hand-shake and ripping-up of speeches is just the tip of the iceberg on how polarized Washington and the country is...
2020 is re-kindling memories of 68-73 for this 50 some year old...
thats the point, you agree with their political views so when they have spoken up/out you dont get irritated at their positions. get rid of Rush's slant and just look at what he did for talk radio and his "contribution" was just as significant as most on the list above. (and I didnt listen to him much back then or at all in the last 20 years, but I know that he was as big to talk radio in the last 25 years as anybody.)
No doubt that Limbaugh's contribution to talk radio has been huge. But there's also no doubt that Harvey Weinstein's contribution to film has also been huge. Doesn't mean I'd be OK with anyone giving him an award and ignoring that he, like Limbaugh, is also a piece of shit.
and it goes back to a person could likely find shit on many of those listed above if they were so inclined to go digging. for me I dont give a shit, it was a political FU and nothing more, its not like that award has significant meaning to the citizens of the country or else those getting it would be open to more scrutiny than "the president thought he/she was deserving"
I don't think it's a political FU as much as it is an FU to civility, to decency, or as Lincoln put it, the better angels of our nature.
nope, pretty much just at Nancy and her band of merry followers.
LOL
The false equivalency at work is impressive
It has zero to do with Rush’s politics
It has everything to do with the fact he is a racist piece of shit and spent decades to encourage others to also act the same and there isnt any digging required to figure that out
what has he said/done that is so racist? I am not a follower, but i have to believe that if he was openly racist that he wouldnt have been on so many radio stations. Or is this just another conservative + white man = racist situations?
You are welcome to read the thread on here about his song Barack the Magic Negro, or use google and find dozens of articles of his top 20 most racist comments, or you can pull the old standby “conservative white man victim card”.
Dude is infamous for his hateful sermons where he attacks everyone else and has all the dumbass white people believe they are the real victims in this country. He has played arguably the largest role in dividing this country than anyone besides Fox News.
My favorite is his bullshit opinion on how smoking wasnt that bad and 2nd hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer ... so he continued to smoke and lo and behold guess who gets lung cancer.
Karma is a sweet, sweet little bitch sometimes.
we can agree to disagree on who is at the helm of the great divide. as far as the magic negro, wasnt that originated by a liberal columnist with the LA times? I am not defending him, but I am just curious if that lib columnist gets a pass on creating the term since he couldnt be racist because of his political affiliation? I think a lot of shit that used to be perfectly acceptable is now considered racists but only if the person doing it is conservative or pale complected so please excuse me if I question when some slap that label on others.
Lets not confuse cultural icons with political, racist scum...
Most of us are smarter than that.
The bigger issue is still the fractionalization of our country. IS that even a word?
Divides grow deeper, wider and longer. It starts in Washington and spreads from there.
Its like Sauron in the East, its going to bite us in the asz.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Lets not confuse cultural icons with political, racist scum...
Most of us are smarter than that.
The bigger issue is still the fractionalization of our country. IS that even a word?
Divides grow deeper, wider and longer. It starts in Washington and spreads from there.
Its like Sauron in the East, its going to bite us in the asz.
how much of his so called racist remarks have you yourself heard and how much are you getting second hand? I googled racist remarks and just to be fair one of the links I read was snopes (notoriously left leaning) and they even said there was no proof for most of the more egregious remarks that are associated with Limbaugh and that are held as fact by much of the internet. I am not saying the guy isnt biased, and he even admits to a terrible comment he made in the early 70s, but from what I can find a lot of what he is accused of saying is unsubstantiated.
He is divisive, but the truth can do that, and that goes both ways, and he certainly winds up people that shouldnt be wound up, but I dont see the evil racist that some try and make him out to be. For the record, my primary experience with Limbaugh as a listener was mainly in 93 and 94, after that I just couldnt listen to his constant slant on everything in the political arena.
I do agree that the divide in this country is very dangerous, but i contend that divide is just as much to blame on one party as the other and IMO it is by design so that the average American is blinded to the real atrocities that are being done to us by the global elite through our politicians. I dont think Trump is the Pro America soldier as much as he wants us to believe, but I do think that he saw a lot of what we used to hold dear in the global economic arena and wants to maintain/regain that strength ( for as much his own gain as for the country ).
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
we can agree to disagree on who is at the helm of the great divide. as far as the magic negro, wasnt that originated by a liberal columnist with the LA times? I am not defending him, but I am just curious if that lib columnist gets a pass on creating the term since he couldnt be racist because of his political affiliation? I think a lot of shit that used to be perfectly acceptable is now considered racists but only if the person doing it is conservative or pale complected so please excuse me if I question when some slap that label on others.
Exactly right, Jimmy.
As a matter of fact...black liberal columnist of the LA Times, David Ehrenstein; who resurrected the "term" in time for the 2008 election.
https://www.latimes.com/la-oe-ehrenstein...story.html
It was so preposterous (the notion of a magic Negro) comedian Paul Shanklin lampooned it (the ideas).
Making it easy to lampoon were the idea's protagonists (Ehrenstein, Biden, guilt-ridden white liberals) and antagonists (Sharpton, Snoop Dogg). Target rich environment.
Of course Rush gave it air-play.
Protestors aren't mad that it's racist....they're mad they've been effectively lampooned.
BTW, I thought it was wrong to give Limbaugh the PMOF at the SOTU. Unneccessarily/gratuitously provocative.
Better to have done at the Oval Office, separately, imo.
I didn't think it was necessary to point out that the man who coined the term was black, and that he used it to lament stereotypes of black men in entertainment, and that this is FAR different than a racist white man using it in a song to mock a black man. Really? This needs an explanation?
Think of it this way: Savvy writes an essay lamenting how southerners are always portrayed as bumbling rednecks in Hollywood. I take that essay and sing a song called Savvy the bumbling redneck. See the difference?
Sometimes I think white conservatives need a manual to help them know how to behave in a modern world.
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I didn't think it was necessary to point out that the man who coined the term was black
Doesn't the "offensive term" need to originate from a 'majority' person? You know...to be considered/imagined to be 'offensive'?
If the term was re-introduced into the lexicon by a black man not matter? Bigly?
and that he used it to lament stereotypes of black men in entertainment
I've re-read Ehrenstein's essay a few times...I don't get much of a 'lamentatious feels'. Can you point it out for this slow southerner?
And if there was indeed "lament", who has been in charge of Hollywood entertainment for decades? Libs or Cons?
and that this is FAR different than a racist white man using it in a song to mock a black man. Really? This needs an explanation?
Uh, yeah. You claim this "song" is proof of Limbaugh racism. Yet he never recalled the term (black lib Ehrenstein did) nor wrote the satirical song. (Shanklin did).
The irony that eludes you ( & therefore makes this song brilliant satire) is a black lib (Ehrenstein) brought the subject up and used lib black men (Sharpton, Snoop) to deliver the "on the record" critique of Obama/guilty white liberals. All while sitting back as a harmless little fuzzball.
SATIRE: a literary technique employed by writers to expose and criticize foolishness and corruption of an individual or a society, by using humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule.
(Barack, the Magic Negro)
Shanklin merely wrote the satire, and Limbaugh amplified it.
Think of it this way: Savvy writes an essay lamenting how southerners are always portrayed as bumbling rednecks in Hollywood. I take that essay and sing a song called Savvy the bumbling redneck. See the difference?
You're now confusing satire (Magic Negro) with farce (your example re: me/Savvy).
FARCE: A farce is a literary technique which involves lighthearted comedy that centers around a ridiculous (that I would lament how southerners are treated in Hollywood) plot that usually involves exaggerated ('bumbling', by southern geography) and improbable events (I'd find 'insult' in being called a redneck.)
These different literary devices are taught in middle-school, in the South.
Proper distinction has to be demonstrated before advancement to HS.
When are they covered in hallucinogenic-legal Colorado? 
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Sometimes I think white conservatives need a manual to help them know how to behave in a modern world.
lol
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