Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
Quote: @Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
We have seen it take a year or two to get up to speed in Zimmers D, and prior to last season we had a big ? on Alexander and Wayne's being a smaller ? but also nearing the end of his deal that would have left Rhodes as our only viable CB, a position that we routinely see at least 3 on the field for the majority of the defensive snaps. A year later it appears to be a position of strength but it could very easily have been the biggest need this offseason if things had fallen a little differently.
Quote: @Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
I think there is some underestimation in how much the defense as a whole would suffer without good CB play. In today's NFL you need to rely so heavily on the secondary to slow down opposing offenses. Add in the fact that a lot of teams are running more 3WR sets and it has made a good nickel invaluable too. So I don't think the Vikings are off base investing high picks and money into their corners. Without them your other pieces don't work as well.
The question that needs to be asked is more along the lines of how sustainable it would be to pay 3 corners market rate. No current team has done that and it's really not feasible. So the Vikings need to pick two of Rhodes, Waynes, and Alexander to move forward with. My guess is they choose Rhodes/Waynes and retain Hughes as the slot guy and Holton hill as your 4th corner.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
I think there is some underestimation in how much the defense as a whole would suffer without good CB play. In today's NFL you need to rely so heavily on the secondary to slow down opposing offenses. Add in the fact that a lot of teams are running more 3WR sets and it has made a good nickel invaluable too. So I don't think the Vikings are off base investing high picks and money into their corners. Without them your other pieces don't work as well.
The question that needs to be asked is more along the lines of how sustainable it would be to pay 3 corners market rate. No current team has done that and it's really not feasible. So the Vikings need to pick two of Rhodes, Waynes, and Alexander to move forward with. My guess is they choose Rhodes/Waynes and retain Hughes as the slot guy and Holton hill as your 4th corner.
case in point... a few years back when our secondary was as poor as it was our run D was always rated #1, not the WWall, our ends, and the LBs were pretty decent at stuffing the run, but the fact that every O in the league could throw on our secondary really made teams not bother with the run when playing the Vikes.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
I think there is some underestimation in how much the defense as a whole would suffer without good CB play. In today's NFL you need to rely so heavily on the secondary to slow down opposing offenses. Add in the fact that a lot of teams are running more 3WR sets and it has made a good nickel invaluable too. So I don't think the Vikings are off base investing high picks and money into their corners. Without them your other pieces don't work as well.
The question that needs to be asked is more along the lines of how sustainable it would be to pay 3 corners market rate. No current team has done that and it's really not feasible. So the Vikings need to pick two of Rhodes, Waynes, and Alexander to move forward with. My guess is they choose Rhodes/Waynes and retain Hughes as the slot guy and Holton hill as your 4th corner.
I saw you mentioned Hughes in the slot earlier but I am at a loss as to figuring out when he has actually, you know, ever played in the slot and showed he could be effective.
I do not know where he played at NC or at the junior college he attended but he played on the outside at UCF and looked good there this past season.
Counting on him to play in the slot reminds me of Josh Robinson.
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
I think there is some underestimation in how much the defense as a whole would suffer without good CB play. In today's NFL you need to rely so heavily on the secondary to slow down opposing offenses. Add in the fact that a lot of teams are running more 3WR sets and it has made a good nickel invaluable too. So I don't think the Vikings are off base investing high picks and money into their corners. Without them your other pieces don't work as well.
The question that needs to be asked is more along the lines of how sustainable it would be to pay 3 corners market rate. No current team has done that and it's really not feasible. So the Vikings need to pick two of Rhodes, Waynes, and Alexander to move forward with. My guess is they choose Rhodes/Waynes and retain Hughes as the slot guy and Holton hill as your 4th corner.
I saw you mentioned Hughes in the slot earlier but I am at a loss as to figuring out when he has actually, you know, ever played in the slot and showed he could be effective.
I do not know where he played at NC or at the junior college he attended but he played on the outside at UCF and looked good there this past season.
Counting on him to play in the slot reminds me of Josh Robinson.
Of the 244 snaps he played this season before getting injured over half came in the slot?
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
If we trade Waynes for a 2nd, and put Hughes in his spot, didn't we just use a 1st to allow us to acquire a 2nd? He's going into his relatively expensive 5th year, then a free agent, so let's not fantasize about him bringing some bounty. But - trade Alexander (probably for less), give HIS job to Hughes, it's the same thing. Doesn't seem like progress in improving overall team talent.
Also, Hughes had a few splash plays - but CBs rarely produce immediately in Zimmer's defense, so what if Hughes struggles in 2019 or 2020? Since Alexander was "arguably the best corner on the roster", why are we thinking of trading him? We aren't a farm team - extend Alexander, let's keep our players who are improving and emerging, not bet on someone who played 4 games or a draft pick.
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ Tyr said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
This has been a foregone, at least to me, conclusion for awhile now...bring on Wilson and my next moniker...
Agreed. If the Vikings were going to bring Barr back, they would've signed him months ago.
If they REALLY wanted to sign Barr, they would have been proactive like they were with Hunter.
i was thinking the same thing about Waynes recently... if they dont approach him this offseason I have to think that means they are willing to move on without him as well.
The Vikings should absolutely trade Waynes.
What was the point of drafting Hughes if your going to extend Waynes.
Watching a player leave in free agency and then hoping to get a compensatory pick (by not doing nothing yourself in free agency) is not a strategy that I am fond of.
All the talk about how Spielman loves 1st round picks and that 5th year has really not produced many extensions. Only Rhodes and Smith.
They have to at least see what another team would offer for Waynes. If you get a good offer then you probably move him. I just don't know if a team is going to give up a premium asset (pick) only to turn around and extend him.
Hughes was a pick to improve the slot where they really struggled at times in 2017. Of course Mac completely showed up this season and was arguably the best corner on the roster. His contract is also up after this coming season.
I think you need to figure out Mac's market rate as well. Coming off a good season and having a cap hit of $1M for a trading team, you might get more by trading him.
Their strategy of stockpiling high round CBs is likely something that I'm never going to like. It feels strange to draft guys like Waynes and Alexander presumably with the intent that they'll never see their second contract here. Corners are expensive, but are the cap savings of a guy like Hughes worth it if they keep taking away high picks from other positions every 1 or 2-years? Hughes seemed promising prior to tearing his ACL, but that doesn't justify the strategy to me. I do agree that Alexander was a question mark heading into last season, but there were more reasonable insurance plans they could have pursued. We did at least seem to get a hit with Holton Hill, but he's the first late round CB to show any promise under Zimmer in MN and even then he was a late round pick more due to concerns over character than ability (not that character issues are easy to manage). It's just strange that the focus is to keep drafting CBs high rather than try to develop affordable replacements in the mid to late rounds. They've had good CB play under Zimmer, but I feel like other positions have suffered because of this.
Is this an intentional strategy or just a sign of them valuing the quality of the prospect over the scale of the need? I'd hope that they won't consider corners in the first two rounds this year, but part of me is prepared that they'll pass over over good OL or LB talent for another CB. I think I'm joking about that, I hope.
I think there is some underestimation in how much the defense as a whole would suffer without good CB play. In today's NFL you need to rely so heavily on the secondary to slow down opposing offenses. Add in the fact that a lot of teams are running more 3WR sets and it has made a good nickel invaluable too. So I don't think the Vikings are off base investing high picks and money into their corners. Without them your other pieces don't work as well.
The question that needs to be asked is more along the lines of how sustainable it would be to pay 3 corners market rate. No current team has done that and it's really not feasible. So the Vikings need to pick two of Rhodes, Waynes, and Alexander to move forward with. My guess is they choose Rhodes/Waynes and retain Hughes as the slot guy and Holton hill as your 4th corner.
I saw you mentioned Hughes in the slot earlier but I am at a loss as to figuring out when he has actually, you know, ever played in the slot and showed he could be effective.
I do not know where he played at NC or at the junior college he attended but he played on the outside at UCF and looked good there this past season.
Counting on him to play in the slot reminds me of Josh Robinson.
Every time you bring this up I'm going to point out that very few FBS schools utilize CBs solely as Slot Corners AND Josh Robinson played Zone in college, not Man-to-Man. This point you keep trying to make is off-base. So why keep trotting it out?
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