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08-25-2018, 02:11 AM

Quote: @SFVikingFan said:
Incredible TD throw on the run on the next play to Beebe in the endzone! BOOM!!!

Beebe is really fighting to make this team, had a big punt return to set up this drive as well.

Beebe and Sloter will make some team. If not ours, they'll be signed by one of the basement dwellers.

08-25-2018, 02:15 AM

Quote: @Scoog said:

@SFVikingFan said:
Incredible TD throw on the run on the next play to Beebe in the endzone! BOOM!!!

Beebe is really fighting to make this team, had a big punt return to set up this drive as well.
Beebe and Sloter will make some team. If not ours, they'll be signed by one of the basement dwellers.

No doubt Sloter will make the roster. Not sure about Beebe but hoping he makes the practice squad at the very least.

08-25-2018, 02:25 AM

Definitely bright spots tonight.

08-25-2018, 02:41 AM

Quote: @ThunderGod said:

@SFVikingFan said:

@HappyViking said:
Missed the first half, but Siemien looks horrible. Case is a major upgrade for Denver. Cousins better stay healthy.
I was just thinking the same thing. Offense looks much better since Sloter has come in.

Nice throw by Sloter to Boone on 3rd down to get 1st and goal at the 5.
Boone rush down to 1 yard line.
Sloter throw to Wieneke for a TD.
Carlson a little too close for comfort on the extra point. Sigh...

Sloter is pumped; I like this guy and his attitude. Looks much, much better than what I have seen out of Siemien.

In fairness to Siemien (and maybe a little with Cousins) the SeaHawks were out to blitz tonight and the our offensive line didn't give them much time. Siemien didn't seem to either have any deep routes to throw to or didn't have the time.

I agree. Really surprising to blitz that much in a meaningless pre-season game. Stupid actually. Quite a bit of stunting too although the Vikings started doing that later themselves.

The OL was not ready for it and it showed. BUT! I had stated earlier that Siemian was in danger of playing his way right off the team, and I think he did just that tonight.

08-25-2018, 02:43 AM

A few observations:
Compton isn't good. He is the one who blew the pass protection when Cousins got sacked earlier, because he couldn't come off of his (unnecessary) double-team with the LT in time (or, really, at all). On the other hand, I think Edison should stay on the field, even after Elflien comes back. He's been impressive in both the run and passing. That might solve our LG "problem". Also, Hill (RT) wasn't all that impressive. The rookie (O'Neill) helped give up a sack because he simply didn't keep his feet moving (fast enough). Simien was also to blame, because he didn't step up on that one.

As for the early troubles, the Seahags were clogging every running lane, which is tough to run against (especially when you use a zone blocking scheme like we do). But that should've opened up some of the passing opportunities. I'm hoping that Flip was just trying to get some plays run that he wanted to see, rather than failing to adjust to the extra attention paid to the running lanes by the Seahags. On the other hand, we did attempt some P/A passes- but just didn't execute them.

Cousins has looked meh so far; but I guess I'm not too shocked by that. Hopefully he gets better.

Not happy with the defense (vs. the run) at all. Richardson does not look like he should be a 3-down DT. He looks better suited to rush the passer; he wasn't real effective vs. the run. On the other hand, it also looked like we were in some kind of nickel defense for most of the game, which means that we only had 2 LBs on the field to stop the run.

Overall, not too impressed... but still hopeful that the issues are more related to us trying to get our work in vs. just not executing.

08-25-2018, 02:51 AM

Quote: @pumpf said:
A few observations:
Compton isn't good. He is the one who blew the pass protection when Cousins got sacked earlier, because he couldn't come off of his (unnecessary) double-team with the LT in time (or, really, at all). On the other hand, I think Edison should stay on the field, even after Elflien comes back. He's been impressive in both the run and passing. That might solve our LG "problem". Also, Hill (RT) wasn't all that impressive. The rookie (O'Neill) helped give up a sack because he simply didn't keep his feet moving (fast enough). Simien was also to blame, because he didn't step up on that one.

As for the early troubles, the Seahags were clogging every running lane, which is tough to run against (especially when you use a zone blocking scheme like we do). But that should've opened up some of the passing opportunities. I'm hoping that Flip was just trying to get some plays run that he wanted to see, rather than failing to adjust to the extra attention paid to the running lanes by the Seahags. On the other hand, we did attempt some P/A passes- but just didn't execute them.

Cousins has looked meh so far; but I guess I'm not too shocked by that. Hopefully he gets better.

Not happy with the defense (vs. the run) at all. Richardson does not look like he should be a 3-down DT. He looks better suited to rush the passer; he wasn't real effective vs. the run. On the other hand, it also looked like we were in some kind of nickel defense for most of the game, which means that we only had 2 LBs on the field to stop the run.

Overall, not too impressed... but still hopeful that the issues are more related to us trying to get our work in vs. just not executing.

It did look like we were missing a MLB on those long runs given up.
Very little penetration by the DL when the first string was in there. The DTs were clearly getting handled.
The OL, well, what can I say. I did not see a whole lot of positives with that group, even Edison did not impress me in the early going. I don't know what the answer is there.

08-25-2018, 10:18 AM

The 3rd pre-season game is the one you want to look ready in. I agree. What I saw didn't scream ready. Still got alot of practice field time to go before we take the playing field against San Fran. Pre-season has been frustrated by oline injuries. I would have hoped we could have worked more series with what resembled a starting unit. Cook has had to be held back and only just got some action. Kingbash is right. Don't read too much into pre-season games. We don't know what the coaches goals and priorities are. It is better as a fan if they look great. I'm no way concerned. This team is loaded. Well I'm concerned about the offensive line. Is that anything new??

08-25-2018, 10:28 AM

Quote: @HappyViking said:
Missed the first half, but Siemien looks horrible. Case is a major upgrade for Denver. Cousins better stay healthy.

I'm going to start going broken record here soon. Trevor doesn't look awful he was and is awful. I was not on board with giving up any draft assets for a guy someone else already gave up on. If there was any hope for Siemian it was lost in Denver. He is now a scared QB who is indecisive and more afraid of the bad that might happen to pull the trigger. He's inaccurate when he does. Sloter should be #2. That kid is the rifleman.

08-25-2018, 10:40 AM

Quote: @Ponifan said:
I am focused on the OL tonight and no, it does not look good. I knew the first preseason game was an anomaly. Now, reality is setting in. Even with everybody healthy, it was not going to be easy, but they don't have the players right now. Completely over-matched on run-blocking.

Agree and it might be time to start thinking about the ever expensive oline trade. It's only going to get more expensive later. We still got 2 weeks of practice time. Might be a good time to bring in one more guy to practice. We knew this was going to be a weakness. However not to even be able to get through pre-season without it getting weaker is a concern. Hope they get it right. If not we won't be right. A concern 2 years ago concerned last year, just getting started this year and...

08-25-2018, 11:08 AM

Going to be all pre-season without the starting OL playing together.

Cousins had good velocity tonight, some accuracy issues which will come and go.

Thought Cook should have gotten more carries

Beebe is making the 53 as will Sloter

I think the hype maChine has many believing we're going undefeated or will look dominating most weeks. There's a;ot of good teams out there.