Prairie---don't sell yourself short, you can be both an ox and a moron
And oh yes---Kids remember, spay and neuter your vegan
Quote: @medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
That's a textbook example of what I was talking about. You already know everything, so there's need for actual conversation, just a nice pat on your own back for how smart you are.
Quote: @medaille said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
That's a textbook example of what I was talking about. You already know everything, so there's need for actual conversation, just a nice pat on your own back for how smart you are.
I find it interesting that both your examples have extremely strong science on one side and money grubbers (Wakefield's measles vaccine patent and autism detection kit venture, the fossil fuel industry) on the other. In both cases, the good debate in the form of scientific investigation has already taken place.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
well said!! there isnt much to add
Quote: @Scoog said:
@ medaille said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
That's a textbook example of what I was talking about. You already know everything, so there's need for actual conversation, just a nice pat on your own back for how smart you are.
I find it interesting that both your examples have extremely strong science on one side and money grubbers (Wakefield's measles vaccine patent and autism detection kit venture, the fossil fuel industry) on the other. In both cases, the good debate in the form of scientific investigation has already taken place.
except in GW there is at a minimum some science on both sides. on vacinations there is litteraly no science on antivacinations only moms with youtube channels spouting off about it.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Scoog said:
@ medaille said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
That's a textbook example of what I was talking about. You already know everything, so there's need for actual conversation, just a nice pat on your own back for how smart you are.
I find it interesting that both your examples have extremely strong science on one side and money grubbers (Wakefield's measles vaccine patent and autism detection kit venture, the fossil fuel industry) on the other. In both cases, the good debate in the form of scientific investigation has already taken place.
except in GW there is at a minimum some science on both sides. on vacinations there is litteraly no science on antivacinations only moms with youtube channels spouting off about it. The science against climate change is the same kind of science the tobacco companies had against cigarettes causing cancer.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
well said!! there isnt much to add
Agreed, there is nothing to add. And I'm SO sick of the gullible being susceptible to the garbage theories on the internet about medical and scientific facts that they want to refute to fit their ignorant logic and agendas, like vaccinations. I don't know what the hell is going on with parents today along these lines, but I've learned to never overestimate the intelligence of the masses.
I was at the beach years ago. Cut my foot on something. Not bad. Required several stitches though. Oh and a tetanus shot. I went ahead with the doctors advice even though the science is still out on the effects of leaches curing lockjaw. It's been awhile but I'd do it again.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
When I read this thread or any vaccine threads, I cringe pretty heavily. When it comes to certain topics like vaccines and global warming, good debate goes out the window and is replaced by anti-intellectual bullying and elitism, where people sit on their high horse and look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is very similar to the tactics that SJWs use to eliminate any competing views. I'm skeptical that the vast majority of people on either side of the vaccine issue understand the topic sufficiently well that they should feel comfortable in looking down on other people.
I'm not trying to get anyone to change their minds of the vaccine issue, but just to get people to be aware of when they are just promoting their dogma and stifling competing dogmas rather than helping anyone involved in the conversation.
There are no 'two sides' to this issue. If you think there are, you need to educate yourself.
Brilliant!
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