Quote: @Ralphie said:
Bourdain had a well document history of cocaine and heroin addiction going back decades. In fact, he almost offed himself in 2014 by accidentally overdosing on a weeks worth amount of painkillers and anti-inflammatories and not eating for 36 hours.
He often talked about death in interviews and said his main reason for living was his daughter. Sadly, this latest event might have been triggered by his relationship with his current girlfriend, Asia Argento.
Yah, Bourdain had some demons in his life thats for sure. I thought his relationship with Argento was a positive thing, so I am surprised to read that.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ Ralphie said:
Bourdain had a well document history of cocaine and heroin addiction going back decades. In fact, he almost offed himself in 2014 by accidentally overdosing on a weeks worth amount of painkillers and anti-inflammatories and not eating for 36 hours.
He often talked about death in interviews and said his main reason for living was his daughter. Sadly, this latest event might have been triggered by his relationship with his current girlfriend, Asia Argento.
Yah, Bourdain had some demons in his life thats for sure. I thought his relationship with Argento was a positive thing, so I am surprised to read that.
Yeah, the rumor is that Asia was seen in another country with another man with some stupid t-shirt on. They obviously were fighting. Who knows for sure. Bourdain was almost always riding the edge of darkness. Tragic.
Love won't cure it. Because its not about who loves you....or how good your life appears to be. Its about a blanket of sadness you can't shake and the hopelessness that never goes away. Getting real help gives a person a fighting chance but even then you can never be sure. Because the bottom line is if someone really wants to kill themselves, nobody will be able to stop them.
Quote: @pumpf said:
I could be wrong... but it is my opinion that the same "elements" that are driving more and more people to kill themselves... is the same thing that drives people to kill others. I don't want this to turn political in any way, so I'll just leave it at this: treating the symptoms is never going to bring about a cure.
The murder rate had been dropping for decades. In fact, it is about half of what it was in the 1980's/early 90's.
Quote: @IAVike said:
@ pumpf said:
I could be wrong... but it is my opinion that the same "elements" that are driving more and more people to kill themselves... is the same thing that drives people to kill others. I don't want this to turn political in any way, so I'll just leave it at this: treating the symptoms is never going to bring about a cure.
The murder rate had been dropping for decades. In fact, it is about half of what it was in the 1980's/early 90's.
Yep. Because of the media, people think its much worse today than it used to be. It isn't. There was a pandemic of serial killings in the 80s, along with gang/drug killings in places like Miami and Los Angeles. Crime is down substantially. But high profile acts of violence like school shootings are up and obviously very attractive for the media to get their teeth into. The media manipulates in so many ways.
Quote: @IAVike said:
@ pumpf said:
I could be wrong... but it is my opinion that the same "elements" that are driving more and more people to kill themselves... is the same thing that drives people to kill others. I don't want this to turn political in any way, so I'll just leave it at this: treating the symptoms is never going to bring about a cure.
The murder rate had been dropping for decades. In fact, it is about half of what it was in the 1980's/early 90's.
Good point. I think Sticky has it "closer" to the truth: that the media / social media make everything SEEM worse.
Back to the OP.
I hope their is more reporting, studies, shows on why the suicide rate is up 30% over the last period studied. Maybe we can learn and prevent even a handful. I read we have 123 suicides a day in this country for a multitude of reasons from divorce, health issues and financial strain with health issues, job loss, drugs, to depression and mental health issues.
I think our mental health system needs some real improvements as others have stated. Access to providers is difficult you usually have to see a string of social workers, NP's, PA's before you even get to the MD and then the costs of care and drugs can be prohibitive for many.
Quote: @prairieghost said:
My dear lifelong friend lost her daughter to suicide. She died 10 days before her 20th birthday. Her entire life was burdened with mental illness and she struggled mightily to get through every day. Her parents worked night and day to save their child, but in the end it was for naught. She wasn't into drugs or alcohol and she didn't have a sudden life-changing tragedy occur prior to her death. She was, simply, mentally ill. It makes no sense but also makes plenty of sense. It's torture.
My son has Asperger's syndrome and has been labeled off and on throughout his life with various diagnoses from behavioral disorder NOS, bipolarism, ADD, ADHD, ODD, and schizophrenia. He's doing quite well now, much better than 3 years ago. I worry about him so much that at times I have panic attacks which I never had as a young person. You learn to live life 1 day at a time for sure. You focus all your energy on getting them through life and doing everything you can to keep them motivated about life because they can stop being motivated without warning.
I'm a medical transcriptionist and the number of people who come into the hospital on a daily basis for mental health and/or drug and alcohol issues is so staggering you don't even want to know about it.
I also have a 21 yr old daughter with Asperger's syndrome. We also went thru many diagnoses until we have what we have now. She was suicidal for several years. We could not leave her alone for any amount of time for fear that she'd harm herself. She was also a cutter, which is horrible too. She' now adjusting quite well now to life outside of school. She on Government Disability and my wife is her caretaker. But like you, I still worry allot and I have now gotten an anxiety problem because of it. Luckily she's not into drugs or alcohol. But its a day to day situation with her and it has torn our family apart....
Welcome aboard the Longship BeaverVike and thank you for sharing about your daughter. The worry doesn't end when they become adults, it only changes.
Another area to address is veterans and mental health. Too many are falling through the cracks and not getting the help they need. They definitely deserve care and consideration as well.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
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