Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
A draw, lol.....brutal. I hate the tie games. They had some opportunities in ET to win it. Penalty kicks are so bogus, just straight up luck almost.
Hate em too but the US missed two wide open shots in the PK's.
Yep, seemed to choke. What a loss. Let's see if the sports media makes excuses or gives real criticism like they should. Rapinoe looks washed. Earliest exit in USA Women's history. Little doubt the rest of the world has caught up to the USWNT.
I personally believe the biggest problem is their coach. Vlatko did a horrible job, not only putting this team together but also preparing them for the WC. Their lineup was confusing to say the least, it was like he just pulled names out of a hat said okay you play today. Agree Sticky, Rapinoe had no business being on this team, much less actually playing.
Oh well, they now have 4 years to prepare for the next one. I guess 2 years if you count the Olympics.
Some of the coaching decisions made no sense. Yeah there is time for adjustments and planning to move forward.
I dont think you mark this up to coaching decisions. If anything it was on the focus of the team. They obviously weren't putting the game first.
I would never root against the US...period...but not going to lie...I smirked a little when I read about the game yesterday morning. Kneeling is one thing in a match in the US. Kneeling on the International stage is quite another. To see how proud the opposing players were to represent their countries...many of whom have much worse domestic issues...versus the disdain the US team showed was tough to watch. Now that Rapinoe has announced her retirement, I wonder how much of that goes away? She was certainly the vocal leader of the teams social agenda. Everybody is afraid to call her out on some of this stuff. Now that she has announced her retirement, she says she would welcome biological men into Women's soccer. Really? The World Champion USWNT lost a match against a boys 15 and under team in 2017. Even with hormone treatment, a biological man will be faster, stronger, and shoot harder than a woman. Let that soak in little girls who dream of participating on the world stage. The push for equal pay was also a little disingenuous. There's no doubt that due to their overwhelming success, the US Women's team was able to draw the crowds but the revenue and merchandising between International Men's and Women's soccer is an order of magnitude different. They were giving tickets away at the Women's World Cup. For many countries, the World Cup is their Superbowl played every 4 years. Much like the Superbowl, those tickets go for a premium.
The reality is the rest of the World, who previously thought of Soccer (Football) as a men's game...has now caught up to the US. The passion for the game globally is unparalleled. I remember going on a trip through the Himalayas between Kathmandu, Nepal and Lhasa, Tibet including Everest Base Camp. We purchased a soccer ball at one of the local outdoor markets as we crossed the International bridge into China (Tibet) while we were waiting for our guide (the CCP official that would tell us all about liberating Tibet from their totalitarian leadership..). The Land Rover broke down numerous times along the way...the dirt roads were marginal at best. The driver was a pretty good mechanic and would always get the thing back and running. When the Land Rover would break down, we would always pull the soccer ball out and kick it around. By the time the driver had the Rover fixed, we usually had a full game going with the locals...even in remote areas where we hadn't seen a person in hours. Every time we started to kick that ball around...people would appear out of nowhere. We didn't speak the language but it didn't matter.
Now that the USWNT has come back down to the field...I wonder how much revenue they'll be able to take in versus the Men's team. Will they reevaluate the pay based on revenues? It's just plain economics. We'll see how the team fares in the Olympics in 2 years. That will tell you a lot about whether this was a trend or a fluke.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
A draw, lol.....brutal. I hate the tie games. They had some opportunities in ET to win it. Penalty kicks are so bogus, just straight up luck almost.
Hate em too but the US missed two wide open shots in the PK's.
Yep, seemed to choke. What a loss. Let's see if the sports media makes excuses or gives real criticism like they should. Rapinoe looks washed. Earliest exit in USA Women's history. Little doubt the rest of the world has caught up to the USWNT.
I personally believe the biggest problem is their coach. Vlatko did a horrible job, not only putting this team together but also preparing them for the WC. Their lineup was confusing to say the least, it was like he just pulled names out of a hat said okay you play today. Agree Sticky, Rapinoe had no business being on this team, much less actually playing.
Oh well, they now have 4 years to prepare for the next one. I guess 2 years if you count the Olympics.
Some of the coaching decisions made no sense. Yeah there is time for adjustments and planning to move forward.
You gotta blame it on a guy somehow. lol
Quote: @badgervike said:
Now that the USWNT has come back down to the field...I wonder how much revenue they'll be able to take in versus the Men's team. Will they reevaluate the pay based on revenues? It's just plain economics. We'll see how the team fares in the Olympics in 2 years. That will tell you a lot about whether this was a trend or a fluke.
The more interesting part from my perspective is there's zero doubt a big part of the USWNT's fan interest was their success. Fans came onboard because of how dominate they were and its always fun to be a part of front-runners. What if they aren't the world's best anymore for real? They still might be, but if they've taken a step back and the world has taken a big step forward, its going to gut their fan support. JMO.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
A draw, lol.....brutal. I hate the tie games. They had some opportunities in ET to win it. Penalty kicks are so bogus, just straight up luck almost.
Hate em too but the US missed two wide open shots in the PK's.
Yep, seemed to choke. What a loss. Let's see if the sports media makes excuses or gives real criticism like they should. Rapinoe looks washed. Earliest exit in USA Women's history. Little doubt the rest of the world has caught up to the USWNT.
I personally believe the biggest problem is their coach. Vlatko did a horrible job, not only putting this team together but also preparing them for the WC. Their lineup was confusing to say the least, it was like he just pulled names out of a hat said okay you play today. Agree Sticky, Rapinoe had no business being on this team, much less actually playing.
Oh well, they now have 4 years to prepare for the next one. I guess 2 years if you count the Olympics.
Some of the coaching decisions made no sense. Yeah there is time for adjustments and planning to move forward.
I dont think you mark this up to coaching decisions. If anything it was on the focus of the team. They obviously weren't putting the game first.
It's a multitude of things and no one gets a pass. I previously mentioned some people not knowing when there time is up and the newbies. It's a combination of things. Sometimes it is chemistry and figuring out what works. Other countries are investing resources and now the US has to adjust. It's adversity, we'll see how they respond.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
@ StickyBun said:
A draw, lol.....brutal. I hate the tie games. They had some opportunities in ET to win it. Penalty kicks are so bogus, just straight up luck almost.
Hate em too but the US missed two wide open shots in the PK's.
Yep, seemed to choke. What a loss. Let's see if the sports media makes excuses or gives real criticism like they should. Rapinoe looks washed. Earliest exit in USA Women's history. Little doubt the rest of the world has caught up to the USWNT.
I personally believe the biggest problem is their coach. Vlatko did a horrible job, not only putting this team together but also preparing them for the WC. Their lineup was confusing to say the least, it was like he just pulled names out of a hat said okay you play today. Agree Sticky, Rapinoe had no business being on this team, much less actually playing.
Oh well, they now have 4 years to prepare for the next one. I guess 2 years if you count the Olympics.
Some of the coaching decisions made no sense. Yeah there is time for adjustments and planning to move forward.
I dont think you mark this up to coaching decisions. If anything it was on the focus of the team. They obviously weren't putting the game first.
It's a multitude of things and no one gets a pass. I previously mentioned some people not knowing when there time is up and the newbies. It's a combination of things. Sometimes it is chemistry and figuring out what works. Other countries are investing resources and now the US has to adjust. It's adversity, we'll see how they respond.
I think getting back to just playing the damn game will go a long way to fielding a competitive team again. They have made social justice their primary focus for quite a while now, and that is their right, but then they shouldnt come crying about people not giving a shit about them when they've spent the last decade crying about and crapping on a very large percentage of the country and their views.
As far as US soccer goes, if they want to stay relevant and funded, then they need to decide if they are a social justice platform, or a team that is supposed to be playing a game to represent our country, all of it, not just the parts that agrees with their ever shifting goal of an acceptable society. basically, get woke go broke, its been proven time and time again and US soccer isnt going to be an exception unless they change their mindset. This country can and will put up with pink haired rants, what they dont tolerate long are losers, especially ones that dont seem to be focused on their primary purpose and embarrass their country.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ badgervike said:
Now that the USWNT has come back down to the field...I wonder how much revenue they'll be able to take in versus the Men's team. Will they reevaluate the pay based on revenues? It's just plain economics. We'll see how the team fares in the Olympics in 2 years. That will tell you a lot about whether this was a trend or a fluke.
The more interesting part from my perspective is there's zero doubt a big part of the USWNT's fan interest was their success. Fans came onboard because of how dominate they were and its always fun to be a part of front-runners. What if they aren't the world's best anymore for real? They still might be, but if they've taken a step back and the world has taken a big step forward, its going to gut their fan support. JMO.
There's still a chance for the USWNT. As a country, we will never have the passion for Soccer due to the other version of Football but for girls growing up, soccer will still attract the best available athletes. For US Men's soccer, a lot of those higher quality athletes choose Football instead which limits the competitiveness of the US team. I agree with Jimmy above, however, the team needs to get back to just playing soccer and not alienating half their fan base...because losing and pissing off your fans at the same time isn't a recipe for long term success.
Quote: @badgervike said:
Here's all you need to know about the teams laser focus on winning.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/...83296?s=20
Personally I could care less if they or any athletes speak out about what they perceive to be injustices.
Bottom line though, Rapinoe had no business being on the USWNT because her skill level is a shell of what it once was.
Quote: @1VikesFan said:
@ badgervike said:
Here's all you need to know about the teams laser focus on winning.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/...83296?s=20
Personally I could care less if they or any athletes speak out about what they perceive to be injustices.
Bottom line though, Rapinoe had no business being on the USWNT because her skill level is a shell of what it once was.
I don't care either...unless it goes so far as to define their very being. Rapinoe has had some great accomplishments including Golden Boot winner for most goals in a World Cup in 2019 at age 34. So many great moments and her favorite memory is equal pay? You're right though...she had no business playing anymore...
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