Trump declares himself a dictator

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Let's not make this about Bob. The psychopath in the Oval Office is the topic.

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@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said:
I think it's important to differentiate that between "dictator" in a traditional sense and what Trump actually said which was limited to "the subject we're talking about" which is the Covid-19 emergency.

Just depends on what the definition of "is" is. 

A Bill Clinton joke.  Nice.

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@"medaille" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said:
I think it's important to differentiate that between "dictator" in a traditional sense and what Trump actually said which was limited to "the subject we're talking about" which is the Covid-19 emergency.

Just depends on what the definition of "is" is. 

A Bill Clinton joke.  Nice.

You think it was about Bill Clinton? OK, good. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said:
I think it's important to differentiate that between "dictator" in a traditional sense and what Trump actually said which was limited to "the subject we're talking about" which is the Covid-19 emergency.

Just depends on what the definition of "is" is. 

A Bill Clinton joke.  Nice.

You think it was about Bill Clinton? OK, good. 

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@"medaille" said:
I think it's important to differentiate that between "dictator" in a traditional sense and what Trump actually said which was limited to "the subject we're talking about" which is the Covid-19 emergency.

The Constitution gives plenary (total) authority to the federal govt on matters of "threats from outside forces"....ie the Wuhan Wet-Market Coronavirus.  
Trump may very well be on solid constitutional authority, claiming those "grounds".  

That said, BUT, I will share in the sentiment of many previous posts on here, that this wasn't Trump's "best moment". 

@"AGRforever" said:

He doesnt have authority to superseed a stay at home order by a Governor but he certainly would have the right to withhold federal funds. We’ve seen this many times from both sides and neither was/is right. The federal .gov has been enchroaching on states rights for decades.

This is nothing new. Why weren’t you guys up in arms during the last dictators two terms?

His tone on this troubles me as an anti-biggov Constitutionalist. 
All politics is local, and the best politics happens at the most-local level. 

@"SFVikeFan" said:
Obama never made the claim he has unlimited powers over states and that he was a dictator, but your orange loverboy did. 

NOT TRUE!  

Obama claimed he (Constitutionally) couldn't pass "DACA"...then later executive-ordered it.  https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/16/us/us...rants.html



And all you new "Anti-Trumpers"/....new-found "federalists" ......

So now that some of you  now claim "federalism" (states/local) rights..

• when you have in the past
• supported "Sanctuary states/cities" rights... over plenary (federal) oversight
• supported "SCOTUS/federal" abortion rights...with States having no say-so? 

You sure you wanna travel down this road? 




Meaning:  
You wanna bash Trump in this thread, you have intellectually bank-rupted your positions on sanctuary cities and abortion.  

As I stated previously at the top of this thread.  

I "agree" (or at least, can commiserate)  with your anti-Trump stance, in this instance.  

Let's hold hands and explore this Jeffersonial-federalism love, together.  

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Dictator is probably less unhinged than king...I think

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/...-of-israel

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...nstitution

Not the first time he's said this sort of thing.

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“I hate Trump and he said mean things mommy!!!”. 

How do some of yall sleep at night with all the rent free space this guy takes up in your head?  

The guy is an asshole. You get to vote for your own bumbling idiot this fall.  Will it be any better when your own moron with dementia is in the oval office?  You guys thought it was bad with Bush 2.0 who was just a figure head. Wait till this new rendition gets elected and some unelected Democrats get to call the shots. 

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@"AGRforever" said:
“I hate Trump and he said mean things mommy!!!”. 

How do some of yall sleep at night with all the rent free space this guy takes up in your head?  

The guy is an asshole. You get to vote for your own bumbling idiot this fall.  Will it be any better when your own moron with dementia is in the oval office?  You guys thought it was bad with Bush 2.0 who was just a figure head. Wait till this new rendition gets elected and some unelected Democrats get to call the shots. 

You guys really need another excuse than the “Orange man bad” 1 note tune you all trumpet every time Trump fucks up.  

I understand when you have no excuses for his immoral, anti-Constitutional behavior and sheer assholeness this is your favorite go-to standby response ...


Just remember if this guy was a liberal Democrat you would all be going apeshit so stop pretending it’s no big deal.  Didn’t GOP call Obama a dictator for having the gall to try and get everyone healthcare?  Now Trump claims “absolute authority” over states and you complain that we are whining because “Trump said mean things”?


No, Trump tried to convince the world he is the king of America and just like everything else the GOP did a 180 on in the last 3 years:  from family values, limited government, fiscal conservatism, and socialism - suddenly it’s okay to shit on the Constitution and let a dictator rule the country.   

But don’t complain because you are tired of us picking on him?


So long America, it was a nice run ...

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