Once again, we're gonna have a new OC, a new system, there will be a learning curve. Prepare for a lot more of this next year. Who knows if Kirk has "it" but we won't find out any time soon with him constantly learning another system as opposed to knowing all this like the back of his hand.
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Once again, we're gonna have a new OC, a new system, there will be a learning curve. Prepare for a lot more of this next year. Who knows if Kirk has "it" but we won't find out any time soon with him constantly learning another system as opposed to knowing all this like the back of his hand.
I think Zimmer is looking to avoid that at all costs...Probably a main reason it'll stay the Kubiak show in 2020.
Build a decent oline and most of this angst will vanish. Put it on RS and MZ for bringing in a high dollar QB with limitations to play behind a paper mache line.
Wish we could get Teddy back he is a gamer and fearless. But I know that ship has sailed. I agree we need an upgraded O-Line.
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Build a decent oline and most of this angst will vanish. Put it on RS and MZ for bringing in a high dollar QB with limitations to play behind a paper mache line.
Agreed. Everyone knew who Cousins was. He's not Mahomes. Not Watson. Not Wilson. But we failed to get him an offensive line to protect him and are disappointed at the outcome.
Cousins can be a successful QB but not with sub par guards and swinging door tackles. We can develop whatever replacement QB to be the future heir apparent. But why Vikings management continue to dance around on this point is beyond ludicrous.
Quote: @Ralphie said:
@ comet52 said:
Build a decent oline and most of this angst will vanish. Put it on RS and MZ for bringing in a high dollar QB with limitations to play behind a paper mache line.
Agreed. Everyone knew who Cousins was. He's not Mahomes. Not Watson. Not Wilson. But we failed to get him an offensive line to protect him and are disappointed at the outcome.
Cousins can be a successful QB but not with sub par guards and swinging door tackles. We can develop whatever replacement QB to be the future heir apparent. But why Vikings management continue to dance around on this point is beyond ludicrous.
Can a team pay a QB 30+ million per year and still put a quality line in front of him? If they try and build a cheap quality line through the draft it will be to late for cousins as that will require 2 or 3 more pieces and by then ONeill will need a new deal that wont be cheap.
Everybody says quick fix OL and extend cousins, I dont see it with talk of extending Cook ( to likely 10+ a year himself)and Diggs and AT taking about 25-30 between them. Imo cook is a luxury we cant really afford or justify, with an improved OL I think Mattison and Boone could get the job done and for much less money.
Cousins needs to take a pay cut, trade Diggs for OL help and use the cap savings from Diggs and likely Reiff to add more OL help.
All that cap space on D from LJ, Griff, and Rhodes will likely be needed to resign Harris, a couple CBs, and another stout run stuffer DT or 3T since we really dont have quality at either one right now.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Ralphie said:
@ comet52 said:
Build a decent oline and most of this angst will vanish. Put it on RS and MZ for bringing in a high dollar QB with limitations to play behind a paper mache line.
Agreed. Everyone knew who Cousins was. He's not Mahomes. Not Watson. Not Wilson. But we failed to get him an offensive line to protect him and are disappointed at the outcome.
Cousins can be a successful QB but not with sub par guards and swinging door tackles. We can develop whatever replacement QB to be the future heir apparent. But why Vikings management continue to dance around on this point is beyond ludicrous.
Can a team pay a QB 30+ million per year and still put a quality line in front of him? If they try and build a cheap quality line through the draft it will be to late for cousins as that will require 2 or 3 more pieces and by then ONeill will need a new deal that wont be cheap.
IMO yes, with a bit of luck in FA and a good draft pick here or there. Probably a greater % of the cap is going to go to the offense vs the D than what we've seen during the Z era.
They are probably set from Bradbury through O'Neil for now. Fix the left with 2 players. That should bring major improvement. Easier said than done I know.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Ralphie said:
@ comet52 said:
Build a decent oline and most of this angst will vanish. Put it on RS and MZ for bringing in a high dollar QB with limitations to play behind a paper mache line.
Agreed. Everyone knew who Cousins was. He's not Mahomes. Not Watson. Not Wilson. But we failed to get him an offensive line to protect him and are disappointed at the outcome.
Cousins can be a successful QB but not with sub par guards and swinging door tackles. We can develop whatever replacement QB to be the future heir apparent. But why Vikings management continue to dance around on this point is beyond ludicrous.
Can a team pay a QB 30+ million per year and still put a quality line in front of him? If they try and build a cheap quality line through the draft it will be to late for cousins as that will require 2 or 3 more pieces and by then ONeill will need a new deal that wont be cheap.
IMO yes, with a bit of luck in FA and a good draft pick here or there. Probably a greater % of the cap is going to go to the offense vs the D than what we've seen during the Z era.
They are probably set from Bradbury through O'Neil for now. Fix the left with 2 players. That should bring major improvement. Easier said than done I know.
The D needs to be reinvested in as well, lots of holes over there to fill and aside from DE, no real depth to pull from there either.
Maybe Samia, Udoh, or Collins makes a huge step forward and fills a need on that OL cheap, and maybe we find a starter that plugs in and starts right away in the draft, but IMO, we are to salary and talent heavy on the skill players and not enough on the guys that make it all actually happen, the OL...and then the notion of extending Cook to big money when we are jettisoning veterans already to create cap space just to get under the limit to start the season???
Like you say, lots of luck. :#
Next year we are going to have approximately $60 million invested in cap in Cousins, Diggs, and Theilen. Last year we were 30th in pass attempts. That type of spending is just foolish and unsustainable. Jettison Diggs, who has for a couple seasons now lobbied for a trade (albeit in a passive aggressive manner) and put your money where your mouth is regarding the running game. Build a line that can take over games.
@ JimmyinSD. said:
Cousins needs to take a pay cut, trade Diggs for OL help and use the cap savings from Diggs and likely Reiff to add more OL help.
I'd be jiggy with this. Make it so, #1! 
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