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Can a leopard change his spots?
#11
The only correct answer is we just don't know yet. There are a lot of declarative statements being made right now that I've heard before. For years, it was said that John Elway couldn't win the big one. Until he did 14 years into his career. And then he won back to back Super Bowl. 

Cousins is going to have good games and he's going to have bad games in the remainder of the season. And the balance of that will determine whether we draft a QB in the 1st round next spring. But two things I know for certain: Yesterday's game, by itself, will not determine that. And Cousins will be our QB next season. 
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#12
Quote: @medaille said:
I think you can kind of get a leopard to change his spots,
but not a lot.  That said, we got Kirk
knowing who he was and that we’d have to build a team around him, and being
pressured 60% of the time, while having every good thing he does nullified by
receivers or OPI is not building around him. 
I don’t think you’re ever going to get rid of the fumbles, but I should
hope that better pass protection should shift the outcome of several games, and
hopefully you can get him to get rid of those horrible decision making interceptions
where he’s throwing into triple coverage of an unstable platform.
Agree.  He needs to understand the team a bit better.  We were running at will, no need to force the pass in the endzone.  No need to be the hero.
One thing that I have seen pinned on Cousins tho was the overthrow to Diggs in the 4th.  IMO that was all on diggs.  I think he started to quit on the route until he saw the ball coming his way.  There was a moment of hesitation that probably could have accounted for that step he needed to catch that bomb.  That would have been huge.
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#13
Couple of things; some franchises go through protracted stretches of awful management. To say you can't get a good FA QB is ignoring how stupid the FO of teams like the Raiders, Browns, and yes, the Skins have been for the last 5+ years. Not saying  KC is the guy we hoped for but to say you can't get a Franchise QB in FA is simply not true.

Also, why the f did Stefanski throw the ball on the that game - killing INT?

I've been reading articles all morning and while folks are certainly crushing Kirk for his performance Stefanski is also drawing a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. He got too cute a few times and it really coat the team.
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#14
Quote: @FSUVike said:
Couple of things; some franchises go through protracted stretches of awful management. To say you can't get a good FA QB is ignoring how stupid the FO of teams like the Raiders, Browns, and yes, the Skins have been for the last 5+ years. Not saying  KC is the guy we hoped for but to say you can't get a Franchise QB in FA is simply not true.

Also, why the f did Stefanski throw the ball on the that game - killing INT?

I've been reading articles all morning and while folks are certainly crushing Kirk for his performance Stefanski is also drawing a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. He got too cute a few times and it really coat the team.
1st and goal is always a good time to play-action pass to get an easy score if the defense is playing the run hard.

The offensive coordinator shouldn't have to protect his veteran QB by running it 3 times...  And he should expect his veteran QB to throw it away if his first two reads are covered.  Not force a throw that isn't there.
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#15
Quote: @FSUVike said:
Couple of things; some franchises go through protracted stretches of awful management. To say you can't get a good FA QB is ignoring how stupid the FO of teams like the Raiders, Browns, and yes, the Skins have been for the last 5+ years. Not saying  KC is the guy we hoped for but to say you can't get a Franchise QB in FA is simply not true.

Also, why the f did Stefanski throw the ball on the that game - killing INT?

I've been reading articles all morning and while folks are certainly crushing Kirk for his performance Stefanski is also drawing a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. He got too cute a few times and it really coat the team.
Couple weeks ago, when asked by a reporter whether he wanted to run the ball more, pass more, be balanced, etc. Stefanski said more than anything he wanted to "unpredictable." And that's typically a good thing. All game long I sensed Stefanski using this game to achieve more balance. If you can pull up the passing game and make that an equal threat, then it makes everything much easier down the road. That's what this game was supposed to do and it didn't work. As a result, next week Oakland will load the box and force Cousins to beat them. He'll have to do it or else the game plan for the Bears the following week (and all other opponents) will be written. 

I know everyone expected a run right there. Even my neighbors who could hear some maniac screaming 'RUN THE FUCKING BALL!" But if it's complete, nobody says a word. Bottom line is you have to expect your veteran QB will not throw into coverage like that. 
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#16
Quote: @FSUVike said:
Couple of things; some franchises go through protracted stretches of awful management. To say you can't get a good FA QB is ignoring how stupid the FO of teams like the Raiders, Browns, and yes, the Skins have been for the last 5+ years. Not saying  KC is the guy we hoped for but to say you can't get a Franchise QB in FA is simply not true.

Also, why the f did Stefanski throw the ball on the that game - killing INT?

I've been reading articles all morning and while folks are certainly crushing Kirk for his performance Stefanski is also drawing a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. He got too cute a few times and it really coat the team.
There are bad FOs and bad decisions made, but even so, how many already-established QBs have ever changed teams and gone on to success - even from the Browns or Raiders? I don't recall the Browns sending anyone a franchise quarterback, and even Jon Gruden didn't ship Derek Carr away.
Exclude cases like Jim Plunkett succeeding with the Raiders, and similar reclamation cases, and also teams trading unproven prospect QBs like Brett Favre. The success stories in recent history are Drew Brees and Payton Manning. I might exclude Manning because he was 36 and considered a medical risk by many teams. Before that, the last case was...Fran Tarkenton? 

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#17
Hmmm. National media is talking about how gassed and ready to throw in the towel the Packers Defense was so why pass it there. Meanwhile, Vikings fans can only see the horrible throw. Interesting.
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#18
Quote: @FSUVike said:
Hmmm. National media is talking about how gassed and ready to throw in the towel the Packers Defense was so why pass it there. Meanwhile, Vikings fans can only see the horrible throw. Interesting.
You can question play calls until you're in a padded cell. I'm only saying that Stefanski was trying to be balanced and unpredictable. Good decision? Bad decision? Debatable. But I get it. One thing, however, that is not debatable is that Cousins' throw into coverage was a bad decision. 
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#19
Cousins was brought in as another "Game Manager".  Look at the first game against the Falcons, up 28 points in the 3rd quarter Cousins didn't need to take any risks and attempted only 10 passes.  Against the Packer down 21 points after the first quarter, he was put in a position he had to take risks and made boner mistakes.  The fumbles, bad passes and the interceptions.  He's not and will never be the "Comeback Kid".
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#20
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@FSUVike said:
Couple of things; some franchises go through protracted stretches of awful management. To say you can't get a good FA QB is ignoring how stupid the FO of teams like the Raiders, Browns, and yes, the Skins have been for the last 5+ years. Not saying  KC is the guy we hoped for but to say you can't get a Franchise QB in FA is simply not true.

Also, why the f did Stefanski throw the ball on the that game - killing INT?

I've been reading articles all morning and while folks are certainly crushing Kirk for his performance Stefanski is also drawing a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. He got too cute a few times and it really coat the team.
Couple weeks ago, when asked by a reporter whether he wanted to run the ball more, pass more, be balanced, etc. Stefanski said more than anything he wanted to "unpredictable." And that's typically a good thing. All game long I sensed Stefanski using this game to achieve more balance. If you can pull up the passing game and make that an equal threat, then it makes everything much easier down the road. That's what this game was supposed to do and it didn't work. As a result, next week Oakland will load the box and force Cousins to beat them. He'll have to do it or else the game plan for the Bears the following week (and all other opponents) will be written. 

I know everyone expected a run right there. Even my neighbors who could hear some maniac screaming 'RUN THE FUCKING BALL!" But if it's complete, nobody says a word. Bottom line is you have to expect your veteran QB will not throw into coverage like that. 
I figured it was time for a pass, as you say to be unpredictable.  But I am not a creative person, so perhaps it was too obvious.  I thought it was a good call, but the Packers had it defended and, yes the veteran QB needs to throw the ball away.  Much like Ryan didn't do last week.
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