NFL rule changes

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@suncoastvike said:

@ArizonaViking said:
The NFL won't stop tinkering with the rules until into the near future you will watch a football game with the final score 106-101.  Wasn't that an exciting game!

I know let's shorten the field to 50 yards. Do away with punting and out of bounds. Every field goal attempt is off a net and returnable. Has that ever been tried?  Bet we could get close to 100 points each that way.

I believe in the Arena Football League they do that with the net on field goal tries.

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@Tyr said:

I'm not a fan of that rule change at all. Calls on the field are subjective as it is and it feels like another way to hurt defenses. I would just rather keep the game moving and accept that there will always be bad calls.

I like it. It's not going to hurt offenses or defenses more or any one team. It just seemed stupid to me that certain calls were not reviewable. If you have the technology to get it right, then get it the hell right.

Before it was always "everyone knows it was a blown call, the booth knows, the teams know, the people at home know, but we're going to cover our eyes because, hey, we have a rule." 

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@SDCAVIKESFAN said:
What next? all plays will be reviewed for a penalty.

Believe me, it's coming.
A non-call on a hold by the OL could be just as damaging a blatant non-call on a D back.

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@MaroonBells said:
@Tyr said:

I'm not a fan of that rule change at all. Calls on the field are subjective as it is and it feels like another way to hurt defenses. I would just rather keep the game moving and accept that there will always be bad calls.

Before it was always "everyone knows it was a blown call, the booth knows, the teams know, the people at home know, but we're going to cover our eyes because, hey, we have a rule." 

I just think it should be handled or fixed differently.  Different in a way that doesn't give the coaches a direct hand in it.  The truth is that blatant PI penalties like what happened to the Saints are nearly never not called.  That was an obvious-obvious penalty, not subjective, and shouldn't have been swept under the "didn't see it rug."  If something like that happens again it should be called down by a booth official and corrected. 



My fear is that coaches are going to be able to abuse this and benefit from it by having non-called subjective, ticky-tack interference plays turned into penalties with a challenge.  The outcome of games could flip from a hand simply touching a receiver that happens on every pass breakup.  My hope is that the officiating won't make it an 'automatic' penalty if the replay shows typical jockeying and reserve it for only the most blatant of non-calls.

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@CLOBIMON said:

@MaroonBells said:
@Tyr said:

I'm not a fan of that rule change at all. Calls on the field are subjective as it is and it feels like another way to hurt defenses. I would just rather keep the game moving and accept that there will always be bad calls.

Before it was always "everyone knows it was a blown call, the booth knows, the teams know, the people at home know, but we're going to cover our eyes because, hey, we have a rule." 

I just think it should be handled or fixed differently.  Different in a way that doesn't give the coaches a direct hand in it.  The truth is that blatant PI penalties like what happened to the Saints are nearly never not called.  That was an obvious-obvious penalty, not subjective, and shouldn't have been swept under the "didn't see it rug."  If something like that happens again it should be called down by a booth official and corrected. 



My fear is that coaches are going to be able to abuse this and benefit from it by having non-called subjective, ticky-tack interference plays turned into penalties with a challenge.  The outcome of games could flip from a hand simply touching a receiver that happens on every pass breakup.  My hope is that the officiating won't make it an 'automatic' penalty if the replay shows typical jockeying and reserve it for only the most blatant of non-calls.

That is my fear. Not that badly blown calls get corrected but that the ticky tac crap that just so happened to be at a critical time gets changed. We've all heard it in sports, they are not calling that at this time in the game. Time and significance do play a factor in officiating. Always has always will. Well maybe not always now. 
My biggest gripe here is personal no doubt about it. When we get screwed by refs we get a nice...my bad letter. Come from the league way to late to make us feel better. Then only after our coach gets fined for complaining. This asshat screams for months and gets the rule changed. Yeah like they are so deserving after the crap they pulled and he got suspended for. Why on Earth did someone like him get to be this important. In issues of fairness anyhow.

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I'm assuming this would count towards the two challenges coaches are allowed each game.  They'll still need to decide if they want to burn a challenge on a particular play and I'm guessing most won't waste one on a tick tacky call (or non-call).

If that is the case, I don't think it will be abused...  It might not even happen once a game.

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@Wetlander said:
I'm assuming this would count towards the two challenges coaches are allowed each game.  They'll still need to decide if they want to burn a challenge on a particular play and I'm guessing most won't waste one on a tick tacky call (or non-call).

If that is the case, I don't think it will be abused...  It might not even happen once a game.

But if that ticky tac call happens at the right time to make a difference they will. Even ticky tac can technically be a penalty. So we are going to let hand-checking that goes on during all kinds of play decide the outcome of an important play

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@CLOBIMON said:

@MaroonBells said:
@Tyr said:

I'm not a fan of that rule change at all. Calls on the field are subjective as it is and it feels like another way to hurt defenses. I would just rather keep the game moving and accept that there will always be bad calls.

Before it was always "everyone knows it was a blown call, the booth knows, the teams know, the people at home know, but we're going to cover our eyes because, hey, we have a rule." 

I just think it should be handled or fixed differently.  Different in a way that doesn't give the coaches a direct hand in it.  The truth is that blatant PI penalties like what happened to the Saints are nearly never not called.  That was an obvious-obvious penalty, not subjective, and shouldn't have been swept under the "didn't see it rug."  If something like that happens again it should be called down by a booth official and corrected. 



My fear is that coaches are going to be able to abuse this and benefit from it by having non-called subjective, ticky-tack interference plays turned into penalties with a challenge.  The outcome of games could flip from a hand simply touching a receiver that happens on every pass breakup.  My hope is that the officiating won't make it an 'automatic' penalty if the replay shows typical jockeying and reserve it for only the most blatant of non-calls.

Fair point. I suppose an extreme example would be holding. If they were able to review that we'd never get anywhere. 

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Stupid ruling.  There will be 4 stoppages per game now because coaches are going to use them on every single bomb play they can.  Zimmer said he's going to use them and he knows coaches are going to use them against him.  In his press conference he was told that they will call these plays by the letter of the law.  Which means if DB so much as flicks the guys jersey before the ball gets there, it's a DPI and will get called.  Zim was and is 100% against this rule and so am I.  Just wait for all the bitching that is going to happen this season regarding these ticky tac calls that lose games for teams.