Quote: @Mike Olson said:
I'm shocked this happened in Florida. Shocked I tells ya!
Full disclosure: I plan to retire in Florida
I'll give ya some advice Mike. They like ya better if you don't tell them how you did it up north. We down here do things our own way. It's not always right...hell It's usually never right but that's our way and we're sticking to it. Or so it seems. Maybe I've just been here to long to bother fighting it.
By the way it was 40° and windy this morning. That sucks for us.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I mean even though it was 14 years ago. He's guilty of being a jerk. Say I didn't ever have aspersions of someday seeking office, which I sure don't. Something inside of me would have told me wearing blackface and mocking people who survived a catastrophic event was uncool. I know what that something is. I call it a conscience.
Yabbut it's not "uncool." It's racist. Why are we so afraid to call it what it is? Would you ever put black face on and go to a party mocking Katrina victims? Of course not, you're not a racist. That's something a racist does.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson thing several years ago. He gets pulled over for DUI and starts ranting about Jews. His defense? He was drunk. Really, Mel? I don't know about anyone else, but I've never ranted about Jews or anyone else when I've had too many.
Don't "you guys" ever get tired of calling everyone you don't agree with "a racist"? There is a difference between being stupid... and actually, literally hating people of a different race. Granted, racism is rooted in ignorance... but that doesn't mean that every ignorant act is racist.
By the way, which political party is it that says people of color need help- because they could never be successful on their own merits? And which party supports abortion on demand, even though it is unbelievably tilted towards the elimination of black people? And which party actually (and openly) supports the idea of voting for a person: based SOLELY on their skin pigmentation?
There is racism in our world; but you cheapen what it means when you throw around the term so loosely (and casually). I suppose... if I were a different kind of person... I could say that that makes you a racist. But I'm not that kind of person.
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ Mike Olson said:
I'm shocked this happened in Florida. Shocked I tells ya!
Full disclosure: I plan to retire in Florida
I'll give ya some advice Mike. They like ya better if you don't tell them how you did it up north. We down here do things our own way. It's not always right...hell It's usually never right but that's our way and we're sticking to it. Or so it seems. Maybe I've just been here to long to bother fighting it.
By the way it was 40° and windy this morning. That sucks for us.
Meh I plan on being in Venice and it's mostly new englanders there.
I'll just make this statement. Putting on blackface in this day and age is stupid, ignorant and racist. Full stop.
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
@ suncoastvike said:
@ Mike Olson said:
I'm shocked this happened in Florida. Shocked I tells ya!
Full disclosure: I plan to retire in Florida
I'll give ya some advice Mike. They like ya better if you don't tell them how you did it up north. We down here do things our own way. It's not always right...hell It's usually never right but that's our way and we're sticking to it. Or so it seems. Maybe I've just been here to long to bother fighting it.
By the way it was 40° and windy this morning. That sucks for us.
Meh I plan on being in Venice and it's mostly new englanders there.
Yeah actually it different now then it was here 30 years ago. Now everyone is from someplace else.
Quote: @Purple Haze said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
Dunno. Obviously in poor taste, but the current trend of digging until you find something embarrassing isn't good either. Everyone has probably done something stupid in their life, and watch out if it was recorded digitally in some way. The vendetta crowd is brutal anymore.
Embarrassing no. Racist yes. Because we now have a racist president, we have countless people no longer embarrassed by their bigotry. That's the biggest problem.
Your comment because we have a racist president is the answer to the question. Before Trump was President or even in politics at all he was given the Elis Island award along with Rosa Parks and Muhamadd Ali, the Tree of Life award by the Jewish Natioal Fund, the Muhamadd Ali entrepreneur award, the Algemeiner Award for contributions between the US and Isreal, he was Time Person of the Year (I doubt Time would give this award to a racist), in 98 Jesse Jackson praised Trump up and down at a Rainbow Push Coalition Convention and had him as a guest.
It was only after he became President that he became this racist, bigot piece of garbage. People have no common sense anymore. Racism has become the new destroy a person word. Want to destroy a persons reputation call them a racist and they are finished, it doesnt matter if its true or not. Im not trying to defend Trump or call you out for saying he is a racist but this is what I see as the problem now days. Trump is a racist, homophobe, biggot , why ??? What has he actually done to be considered a racist ??? Because of Charlottesville? Because he said this when commenting about the violence Approx. 3:30 p.m.
President Trump addressed the nation, condemning the violence "on many sides" and saying "We must love each other, respect each other and cherish our history and our future together."
That makes a person a racist ???? Really, again no common sense. Maybe people don't realize that the neo nazi scum bags marched in the streets the previous night as well. They marched through the streets spewing their garbage and all without incident, why ? because they were just ignored. It wasnt until ANTIFA put out a call to action and showed up the next day and confronted them.
Why is Trump a womanizer and a biggot ? Because he paid a porn star to go away years before he was ever a politician ? Why was never an issue when Clinton was nailing a young woman in the white house ? Why was this never an issue when Clinton paid Paula Jones $800,000 to go away and Jennifer Flowers $250,000 to go away after an affair. Once again no common sense.
The problem in the country has is not that people are no longer embarrassed by their so called racism or bigotry, the problem is with social media deciding what is racist and biggotted. The medias full blown haterd of this president just fuels the problem. The Buzzfeed story that NOT ONE news outlet fact checked, the latest story about the catholic kids supposedly being racist to a tribal elder turned out to be all false and the media ran with it for a couple days and some are still running it all started with SOCIAL MEDIA deciding these kids were yelling racist remarks at this guy so they are now racist.
Stories like this elections chief 's resignation are all about social media over reaction and the people reading this garbage not using and freaking common sense. I don't know maybe the guy is a total racist douchebag, but maybe he is just a good everyday person that made a poor judgement call 14 years ago, but we will never know because this guys professional career is now ruined because was called the R-word and once social media calls you a racist you are just that.
I realize and do agree that Trump should not talk, he does not know how to speak politically and leaves himself wide open for comments but somebody has to tell me what the guy ever did to be considered a racist.
Totally disagree. I don't think racism is this little thing that is made too much out of. I think it's the opposite. I think it's an enormous problem, much bigger than we all thought. And I'm tired of people who try to minimize it as if it's "over." The Charleston shooter and the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooter and Charlottesville and the 40% increase in hate crimes and the increasingly unapologetic white supremacy rallies might have a thing or two to say about that.
It's like this dude in black face. People are so willing to simply say it was a "bad decision" or in "poor taste." No, it's fucking racist.
I will say this though. For a long time I was convinced that Trump wasn't as racist as much as he was an "opportunist" who knew that a large part of his base was. The wall is a good example. Everyone knows the wall is the stupidest idea in the history of stupid ideas. And it will never happen. I'm pretty sure Trump knows that, too. But it's good for him politically because it's a hot seller among the aforementioned base.
Quote: @pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I mean even though it was 14 years ago. He's guilty of being a jerk. Say I didn't ever have aspersions of someday seeking office, which I sure don't. Something inside of me would have told me wearing blackface and mocking people who survived a catastrophic event was uncool. I know what that something is. I call it a conscience.
Yabbut it's not "uncool." It's racist. Why are we so afraid to call it what it is? Would you ever put black face on and go to a party mocking Katrina victims? Of course not, you're not a racist. That's something a racist does.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson thing several years ago. He gets pulled over for DUI and starts ranting about Jews. His defense? He was drunk. Really, Mel? I don't know about anyone else, but I've never ranted about Jews or anyone else when I've had too many.
Don't "you guys" ever get tired of calling everyone you don't agree with "a racist"? There is a difference between being stupid... and actually, literally hating people of a different race. Granted, racism is rooted in ignorance... but that doesn't mean that every ignorant act is racist.
By the way, which political party is it that says people of color need help- because they could never be successful on their own merits? And which party supports abortion on demand, even though it is unbelievably tilted towards the elimination of black people? And which party actually (and openly) supports the idea of voting for a person: based SOLELY on their skin pigmentation?
There is racism in our world; but you cheapen what it means when you throw around the term so loosely (and casually). I suppose... if I were a different kind of person... I could say that that makes you a racist. But I'm not that kind of person.
God, you guys sure hate it when someone talks about racism.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I mean even though it was 14 years ago. He's guilty of being a jerk. Say I didn't ever have aspersions of someday seeking office, which I sure don't. Something inside of me would have told me wearing blackface and mocking people who survived a catastrophic event was uncool. I know what that something is. I call it a conscience.
Yabbut it's not "uncool." It's racist. Why are we so afraid to call it what it is? Would you ever put black face on and go to a party mocking Katrina victims? Of course not, you're not a racist. That's something a racist does.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson thing several years ago. He gets pulled over for DUI and starts ranting about Jews. His defense? He was drunk. Really, Mel? I don't know about anyone else, but I've never ranted about Jews or anyone else when I've had too many.
Don't "you guys" ever get tired of calling everyone you don't agree with "a racist"? There is a difference between being stupid... and actually, literally hating people of a different race. Granted, racism is rooted in ignorance... but that doesn't mean that every ignorant act is racist.
By the way, which political party is it that says people of color need help- because they could never be successful on their own merits? And which party supports abortion on demand, even though it is unbelievably tilted towards the elimination of black people? And which party actually (and openly) supports the idea of voting for a person: based SOLELY on their skin pigmentation?
There is racism in our world; but you cheapen what it means when you throw around the term so loosely (and casually). I suppose... if I were a different kind of person... I could say that that makes you a racist. But I'm not that kind of person.
God, you guys sure hate it when someone talks about racism.
Am I in a "you guys" group now? I've been mentioned twice now in a thread claiming "you guys". I'm going to guess I just got caught in the thread chain. I've never been in a "you guys" group. I'm more of a that guy. Really more like "that F...ing guy".
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I mean even though it was 14 years ago. He's guilty of being a jerk. Say I didn't ever have aspersions of someday seeking office, which I sure don't. Something inside of me would have told me wearing blackface and mocking people who survived a catastrophic event was uncool. I know what that something is. I call it a conscience.
Yabbut it's not "uncool." It's racist. Why are we so afraid to call it what it is? Would you ever put black face on and go to a party mocking Katrina victims? Of course not, you're not a racist. That's something a racist does.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson thing several years ago. He gets pulled over for DUI and starts ranting about Jews. His defense? He was drunk. Really, Mel? I don't know about anyone else, but I've never ranted about Jews or anyone else when I've had too many.
Don't "you guys" ever get tired of calling everyone you don't agree with "a racist"? There is a difference between being stupid... and actually, literally hating people of a different race. Granted, racism is rooted in ignorance... but that doesn't mean that every ignorant act is racist.
By the way, which political party is it that says people of color need help- because they could never be successful on their own merits? And which party supports abortion on demand, even though it is unbelievably tilted towards the elimination of black people? And which party actually (and openly) supports the idea of voting for a person: based SOLELY on their skin pigmentation?
There is racism in our world; but you cheapen what it means when you throw around the term so loosely (and casually). I suppose... if I were a different kind of person... I could say that that makes you a racist. But I'm not that kind of person.
God, you guys sure hate it when someone talks about racism.
Am I in a "you guys" group now? I've been mentioned twice now in a thread claiming "you guys". I'm going to guess I just got caught in the thread chain. I've never been in a "you guys" group. I'm more of a that guy. Really more like "that F...ing guy".
*L* I don't consider you a "you guy." "You guys" are guys who think that complaining about racism is a bigger problem than racism.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I mean even though it was 14 years ago. He's guilty of being a jerk. Say I didn't ever have aspersions of someday seeking office, which I sure don't. Something inside of me would have told me wearing blackface and mocking people who survived a catastrophic event was uncool. I know what that something is. I call it a conscience.
Yabbut it's not "uncool." It's racist. Why are we so afraid to call it what it is? Would you ever put black face on and go to a party mocking Katrina victims? Of course not, you're not a racist. That's something a racist does.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson thing several years ago. He gets pulled over for DUI and starts ranting about Jews. His defense? He was drunk. Really, Mel? I don't know about anyone else, but I've never ranted about Jews or anyone else when I've had too many.
Don't "you guys" ever get tired of calling everyone you don't agree with "a racist"? There is a difference between being stupid... and actually, literally hating people of a different race. Granted, racism is rooted in ignorance... but that doesn't mean that every ignorant act is racist.
By the way, which political party is it that says people of color need help- because they could never be successful on their own merits? And which party supports abortion on demand, even though it is unbelievably tilted towards the elimination of black people? And which party actually (and openly) supports the idea of voting for a person: based SOLELY on their skin pigmentation?
There is racism in our world; but you cheapen what it means when you throw around the term so loosely (and casually). I suppose... if I were a different kind of person... I could say that that makes you a racist. But I'm not that kind of person.
God, you guys sure hate it when someone talks about racism.
No, I hate when someone trivializes it as a way of attacking someone else (with whom they disagree).
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