NFL is trade crazy

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These trades make the NFL more interesting; they are not bad for the NFL.  

Unfortunately, the trades have some of made our rivals better.  The Bears traded for Mack just before the season. The Lions just picked up Snacks Harrison to help their run D. The Saints just got a young and talented corner in advance of playing the Vikings. I’m now hoping the trade deadline passes before the Packers do something significant.

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@HappyViking said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@HappyViking said:
How about this ? https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2018/10/24/18017684/espn-trade-for-patrick-peterson-with-minnesota-vikings-and-it-is-not-too-bad-for-arizona-cardinals

The uncertainty of the Patrick Peterson situation has put the Arizona Cardinals in the cross-hairs of the mainstream media, something that doesn’t happen often, especially with a team that is 1-6.

That is the power of a Hall of Fame level cornerback.

Well, one of the more intriguing options that I have seen floated by a media member is one from Mike Sando of ESPN.

Let’s get right to it, from E$PN Insider:

Arizona would send Peterson to the Vikings for cornerback Trae Waynes, plus 2019 first- and third-round picks, with the Cardinals agreeing to keep Sam Bradford on their roster so that Minnesota will remain eligible for a 2019 third-round compensatory pick that would otherwise vanish.

That is an interesting package.

For the Cardinals, they get an immediate, younger replacement for Peterson in Trae Waynes. Waynes is under contract for 2019 and would give the Cardinals a good look moving forward.

It gives the Cardinals immediate picks in 2019 in the
first and third rounds, where they can use them to move up, stockpile
more picks or look to address immediate needs.

Imagine a scenario where the Cardinals are able to grab a
Greedy Williams in the top five with their pick, Devin White in the
20’s with the Minnesota Vikings pick, then hammer home the offensive
line on day two with players like Dalton Risner of Kansas State or David
Edwards of Wisconsin.

All of a sudden, you have young talent on the offensive
and defensive side of the ball and can really invest in the rebuild that
you have denied for so long.

It isn’t an easy pill to swallow, but would the Minnesota package interest you?

hard pass.  Waynes is worth a low first rounder to second round pick himself IMO and has shown a lot of upside going forward, (the only real knock on him is he gets dinged, but when healthy he is playing as good in coverage as anybody)  so we would essentially be getting Peterson for 2 first rounders and swapping our 3rd round pick for a later one.

I think a Peterson for Waynes swap would make sense, but no way do I see the Vikes giving up all of that.

I would throw a 3rd in.

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@medaille said:
Does it even make sense for the league to continue having
midseason trades?  Shouldn’t they have
this all figured out prior to the season starting rather than getting 6-7 games
in.  It just seems bad for the league to
have Bell and Peterson constantly whining for a trade midseason and Oakland in
full on tank mode selling off assets.

Absolutely it does, a trade deadline like this gives teams chances of selling of pieces they don't need.

Jared Allen could have netted us a nice pick a few years back had the deadline been pushed back a few weeks.

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the peterson trade is garbage. waynes is playing fine plus is signed into the future. we need the pick for our OL or to replace whoever we dont resign. so no thanks.

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@medaille said:
Does it even make sense for the league to continue having
midseason trades?  Shouldn’t they have
this all figured out prior to the season starting rather than getting 6-7 games
in.  It just seems bad for the league to
have Bell and Peterson constantly whining for a trade midseason and Oakland in
full on tank mode selling off assets.

What you're going to see is teams that are already kind of out of it are going to start dumping players and salaries for draft picks. Contenders will be able to get guys that can help them for the stretch run. Detroit getting that big NT from the Giants is going to help them a ton. 

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@StickyBun said:

@medaille said:
Does it even make sense for the league to continue having
midseason trades?  Shouldn’t they have
this all figured out prior to the season starting rather than getting 6-7 games
in.  It just seems bad for the league to
have Bell and Peterson constantly whining for a trade midseason and Oakland in
full on tank mode selling off assets.

What you're going to see is teams that are already kind of out of it are going to start dumping players and salaries for draft picks. Contenders will be able to get guys that can help them for the stretch run. Detroit getting that big NT from the Giants is going to help them a ton. 

Doesn't that just end up with more teams tanking it, leading us to a second half of the season filled with games that don't matter and hopped up super teams that are only paying half salary for pro bowlers that want a championship?

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@medaille said:

@StickyBun said:

@medaille said:
Does it even make sense for the league to continue having
midseason trades?  Shouldn’t they have
this all figured out prior to the season starting rather than getting 6-7 games
in.  It just seems bad for the league to
have Bell and Peterson constantly whining for a trade midseason and Oakland in
full on tank mode selling off assets.

What you're going to see is teams that are already kind of out of it are going to start dumping players and salaries for draft picks. Contenders will be able to get guys that can help them for the stretch run. Detroit getting that big NT from the Giants is going to help them a ton. 

Doesn't that just end up with more teams tanking it, leading us to a second half of the season filled with games that don't matter and hopped up super teams that are only paying half salary for pro bowlers that want a championship?

It definitely could. But teams have tanked it anyway before this new extended trade deadline. Just makes it more obvious. But at the same time, it makes it much more interesting for fans the next year come the Draft as they can be loaded with picks. Which smart contending teams use to trade for known quantities and bottom feeders use to infuse young cheap talent (if they draft well).

"Hopped up" super teams work for the NBA, its turned that league around as far as popularity goes. The NFL still has its parity as it looks once again that some teams that made the playoffs last year, won't be getting in this year. The media and the fence sitting fans the NFL craves so much LOVE 'super' teams. Not saying its a good or bad thing.