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EG's struggles may explain the emotionless beatdown
#11
Quote: @"greediron" said:
 I feel bad about being pissed off to the extent I was.  
Totally agree and some of my prior observations are now moot.  I think seeing a beloved friend, teammate and leader mentally deteriorate in front of your eyes (especially with all the talk about brain injuries in football) must be very disheartening and a huge distraction.  Though obviously not as extreme, it has some of the hallmarks of Korey Stringer's death.
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#12
Quote: @"VikingOracle" said:
@"greediron" said:
 I feel bad about being pissed off to the extent I was.  
Totally agree and some of my prior observations are now moot.  I think seeing a beloved friend, teammate and leader mentally deteriorate in front of your eyes (especially with all the talk about brain injuries in football) must be very disheartening and a huge distraction.  Though obviously not as extreme, it has some of the hallmarks of Korey Stringer's death.
He sounds like he's losing his mind.

https://deadspin.com/police-report-vikin...1829304717

Saying god is telling him to do things, ranting about the numbers "777"... sounds very troubling. 
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#13
Dealing with a team mate who is a leader being hurt is one thing, but with the concussion/head injury awareness, seeing your leader in such a state would be offsetting.

Hopefully, Griff can get the help he needs.
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#14
I don't see how having a team captain being so disruptive at practice they have to tell him to stay away could be a good thing for preparation. Then having him have a total melt down the night before the game could have a positive effect on morale. No excuse I guess but not a normal week to be sure.
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#15
I've dealt with a good number of people with mental health issues and there is a lot we just don't know -- and many questions going through my mind as I read the stories. Instead of asking the questions in this forum, which just seems to speculate and make things worse, I can only feel sad for him, his family, the team, and all of us fans. At this point in time, he needs to take care of himself first and foremost. I ask that you all join me in praying for him and his family. 
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#16
I feel very sad for Everson and his family, so sad in fact that I find myself really not caring about the season. I don't even think I'm going to watch the Rams game. It's not a case of being pissed off that this highly touted team is falling short of what everyone feels they are capable of anymore. It's just a real sadness and a real thought that football is just a game.
If a fan can feel like this, imagine what the team feels like. There are guys on the team who are great friends to Griff and they have to be torn up about their friend.
My son has Asperger's and a mood disorder. It's heartbreaking. There isn't a lot of understanding or patience out there for people like him or Griff, unfortunately. When you're trying to be supportive and loving of a person with mental illness it can be a lonely and stressful battle--one that never ends and nobody wins.
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#17
Quote: @"prairieghost" said:
I feel very sad for Everson and his family, so sad in fact that I find myself really not caring about the season. I don't even think I'm going to watch the Rams game. It's not a case of being pissed off that this highly touted team is falling short of what everyone feels they are capable of anymore. It's just a real sadness and a real thought that football is just a game.
If a fan can feel like this, imagine what the team feels like. There are guys on the team who are great friends to Griff and they have to be torn up about their friend.
My son has Asperger's and a mood disorder. It's heartbreaking. There isn't a lot of understanding or patience out there for people like him or Griff, unfortunately. When you're trying to be supportive and loving of a person with mental illness it can be a lonely and stressful battle--one that never ends and nobody wins.
I will still watch, but the season certainly has taken a different turn, or has a different feel this year.  Second year in a row for a senior boy to miss most or all of his last year of football.  Makes me realize that football, especially the NFL is just an enjoyable distraction.  And yes, dealing with loved ones and mental illness is a long hard road.  Got one of those as well. 

Agree with Cowskull above as well.  hard to even consider speculating about what Griff is going through.  Or the family.  Marriage troubles?  I can see both sides and it is heartbreaking. 

Hopefully the team responds well tomorrow.  I think it will be good for them to go purge some of their own demons. 
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#18
Quote: @"KingBash" said:
@"VikingOracle" said:
@"greediron" said:
 I feel bad about being pissed off to the extent I was.  
Totally agree and some of my prior observations are now moot.  I think seeing a beloved friend, teammate and leader mentally deteriorate in front of your eyes (especially with all the talk about brain injuries in football) must be very disheartening and a huge distraction.  Though obviously not as extreme, it has some of the hallmarks of Korey Stringer's death.
He sounds like he's losing his mind.

https://deadspin.com/police-report-vikings-everson-griffen-jumped-out-of-an-1829304717

Saying god is telling him to do things, ranting about the numbers "777"... sounds very troubling. 

Maybe he was having Christian Ponder flashbacks.
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#19
Quote: @"prairieghost" said:
I feel very sad for Everson and his family, so sad in fact that I find myself really not caring about the season. I don't even think I'm going to watch the Rams game. It's not a case of being pissed off that this highly touted team is falling short of what everyone feels they are capable of anymore. It's just a real sadness and a real thought that football is just a game.
If a fan can feel like this, imagine what the team feels like. There are guys on the team who are great friends to Griff and they have to be torn up about their friend.
My son has Asperger's and a mood disorder. It's heartbreaking. There isn't a lot of understanding or patience out there for people like him or Griff, unfortunately. When you're trying to be supportive and loving of a person with mental illness it can be a lonely and stressful battle--one that never ends and nobody wins.
I am right there with you. I feel a sense of grief. I love my team but I care about them as human beings as well. Watching Everson's struggle unfold before our eyes is heartbreaking. I am not even thinking about why is this happening to our team, I am thinking about Everson's wellbeing. I wish him, his wife and kids all the best. And for those who think his teammates are going to just set this aside, that's unreasonable and unrealistic. They are people with feelings. 

This hits home because of the work I do and watching my son battle. I see it every day at home and at work. So many people are fighting this every single day. My nephew has Asperger's and I have watched him through his challenges. I have seen both ends of the spectrum. Some people are really supportive and sympathetic and others are ignorant and cruel. Whatever happens this year, it's a reminder to make every day count and treasure the time with those you love. 
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#20
Quote: @"Vikergirl" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
I feel very sad for Everson and his family, so sad in fact that I find myself really not caring about the season. I don't even think I'm going to watch the Rams game. It's not a case of being pissed off that this highly touted team is falling short of what everyone feels they are capable of anymore. It's just a real sadness and a real thought that football is just a game.
If a fan can feel like this, imagine what the team feels like. There are guys on the team who are great friends to Griff and they have to be torn up about their friend.
My son has Asperger's and a mood disorder. It's heartbreaking. There isn't a lot of understanding or patience out there for people like him or Griff, unfortunately. When you're trying to be supportive and loving of a person with mental illness it can be a lonely and stressful battle--one that never ends and nobody wins.
I am right there with you. I feel a sense of grief. I love my team but I care about them as human beings as well. Watching Everson's struggle unfold before our eyes is heartbreaking. I am not even thinking about why is this happening to our team, I am thinking about Everson's wellbeing. I wish him, his wife and kids all the best. And for those who think his teammates are going to just set this aside, that's unreasonable and unrealistic. They are people with feelings. 

This hits home because of the work I do and watching my son battle. I see it every day at home and at work. So many people are fighting this every single day. My nephew has Asperger's and I have watched him through his challenges. I have seen both ends of the spectrum. Some people are really supportive and sympathetic and others are ignorant and cruel. Whatever happens this year, it's a reminder to make every day count and treasure the time with those you love. 
And that's exactly why I wish it would not have become public. I find it really to be nobody's business other than those who are family, friends, and caregivers for these individuals. The general public doesn't need to know. I really wish it could have been a discreet situation but for a public figure there's nothing discreet in life. Meanwhile, hopefully the Vikings are providing comfort and assistance for Tiffany and the kids. I really feel for her Sad
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