Quote: @Zanary said:
@ Mark Janda said:
Bridgewater
Upside: Last two full games he beat the Packers and, essentially, the Seahawks. Downside: Hasn't played since 2015.
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If he'd gotten into the end zone even once against the Seahags, I'd be able to support that statement more. Sadly, it was the Blair Walsh Project that scored (and infamously failed to score) all our points that day.
And even against the Packers the game before, with the division on the line, Teddy threw for only 99 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT. He also led the offense to only 13 points. The defense is the reason we beat the Packers and won the division that year.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Was talking with my sons football coach, (Redskins fan) when I mentioned the Cousins to Vikings possibility he said,
"you guys DONT want Cousins...he's always playing from behind, so his numbers always look good, he throws picks at the WORST possible time."
he thought it was crazy we haven't extended Keenum already
Did he mention why he is always playing from behind?
Perhaps he will have the opportunity here to actually play with a lead and not try to do too much.
Bottom line is in his first season (2015) starting they made the playoffs.
In his second season (2016) they went 8-7-1.
He drove them to the go ahead TD against the Lions with 1:05 left in the game. Score was 17-13.
The defense proceeded to let Stafford drive and get the game winning TD.
He drove them to the 16 yard line against the Bengals in London in overtime only see the kicker miss and the game ends tied.
Get those wins and they finish 10-6 and make the playoffs again.
In 2017, the team let both of his receivers go and he had to make do with new ones that did not do as well. He had no running game either. And the defense was terrible against the run.
I don't know.
You got a player who in his first two seasons they make the playoffs once and should have made it again if not for the defense.
Yes he threw some picks that were not good. Considering he was a young QB in terms of games started it was not that bad.
I like the fact that he also accounted for 94 TDs in those first 3 years starting which was top 6 in the NFL over the last 3 years.
Everyone wants to talk about picks and fumbles but no one wants to talk about those TDs.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Was talking with my sons football coach, (Redskins fan) when I mentioned the Cousins to Vikings possibility he said,
"you guys DONT want Cousins...he's always playing from behind, so his numbers always look good, he throws picks at the WORST possible time."
he thought it was crazy we haven't extended Keenum already
I thought it was surprising also and consider two things.
1). They may not be all that interested in Cousin’s considering the cap hell it would put them in and they be using Cousins to keep Keenum’s numbers down.
2). If this guy is worth $30 million a year, why don’t the skins want to hang onto him? Who ever lets a top money QB FA just walk without any offers from his current team? I dont recall this happening before.
Quote: @Mark Janda said:
Keenum
Upside: Led team to NFC Championship Game. Downside: May have reached his full potential
Bradford
Upside: Clearly most talented of the 3 when healthy. Downside: Hasn't stayed healthy.
Bridgewater
Upside: Last two full games he beat the Packers and, essentially, the Seahawks. Downside: Hasn't played since 2015.
Not that any of this is news. But those are your choices. Unless you go off the board for Cousins. Honestly, I don't think the front office can get it too wrong. The problem is that the two who we don't keep will likely have success elsewhere that will eat away at us inside.
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TB beat the Packers and essentially the Hawks????????????
That is comical, Thanks for the laugh. What part of 99 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT had any effect on that win by TB over the Pack?
I guess the 2.6 QBR he posted was inaccurate that day, the numbers must have been wrong.
The hawks games was just average for him, 1 of 8 games with less than 160 yards, 0 TDs. Just another average game day for TB.
Quote: @Poiple said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
Was talking with my sons football coach, (Redskins fan) when I mentioned the Cousins to Vikings possibility he said,
"you guys DONT want Cousins...he's always playing from behind, so his numbers always look good, he throws picks at the WORST possible time."
he thought it was crazy we haven't extended Keenum already
I thought it was surprising also and consider two things.
1). They may not be all that interested in Cousin’s considering the cap hell it would put them in and they be using Cousins to keep Keenum’s numbers down.
2). If this guy is worth $30 million a year, why don’t the skins want to hang onto him? Who ever lets a top money QB FA just walk without any offers from his current team? I dont recall this happening before.
If you don't already know the answer to #2 do your homework. It has zero to do with Cousins and his skills and everything to do with Snyder and his bruised ego over the RG III fiasco and everyone knows it. Period.
Word has it that Bradford would be willing to play for less. Wants to stay in Minnesota and raise his family there. Saw it on Twitter.
Bradford is also the best pure passer of our group...he's just not as mobile. Not sure how that fits the new OC's QB requirements. One has to wonder about the relationship between the two going back to Philly.
Quote: @FSUVike said:
@ Poiple said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
Was talking with my sons football coach, (Redskins fan) when I mentioned the Cousins to Vikings possibility he said,
"you guys DONT want Cousins...he's always playing from behind, so his numbers always look good, he throws picks at the WORST possible time."
he thought it was crazy we haven't extended Keenum already
I thought it was surprising also and consider two things.
1). They may not be all that interested in Cousin’s considering the cap hell it would put them in and they be using Cousins to keep Keenum’s numbers down.
2). If this guy is worth $30 million a year, why don’t the skins want to hang onto him? Who ever lets a top money QB FA just walk without any offers from his current team? I dont recall this happening before.
If you don't already know the answer to #2 do your homework. It has zero to do with Cousins and his skills and everything to do with Snyder and his bruised ego over the RG III fiasco and everyone knows it. Period.
while yes it is on snyder, you also have to look at cousins as well as he was butt hurt with the tag the first year and really wasnt willing to negotiate with them after that. he is a decent QB, but I dont think it was too insulting 2 years ago for the team to want to see him replicate the previous years effort. snyder is a tool, but this is as much about cousins bruised ego as it is danny boys. its not like cousins was forced to play for peanuts under that first tag and certainly got rewarded handsomely this last year.
Quote: @lakeerievike said:
Word has it that Bradford would be willing to play for less. Wants to stay in Minnesota and raise his family there. Saw it on Twitter.
Interesting. I would be more than willing to have Sam back here, but not as the unquestioned starter simply because of his injury history.
Teddy has a similar scary injury situation, but to me, Sam has shown a lot more ability in the NFL than Teddy has (I know Teddy is still young), and his latest injury was nowhere near as severe as Teddy's.
If Sam is really over his latest injury and it doesn't look to be a permanent issue, the ideal scenario for me would be to resign Keenum and Sam, but I don't see how you could do that unless Sam was indeed serious about signing for quite a bit less with possibly an incentive-laden contract.
Quote: @holmanjp said:
TB beat the Packers and essentially the Hawks????????????
That is comical, Thanks for the laugh. What part of 99 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT had any effect on that win by TB over the Pack?
I guess the 2.6 QBR he posted was inaccurate that day, the numbers must have been wrong.
The hawks games was just average for him, 1 of 8 games with less than 160 yards, 0 TDs. Just another average game day for TB.
That year, Teddy was running the AP offense. It wasn't as good as others - but we all knew it wouldn't be going into the season.
It's hard to judge a guy based on doing his job of handing the ball off all game.
But... I do agree with you. There's a lot of romanticizing how good Teddy was and how high his ceiling is. He was given a shot to show his stuff because AP was out of the league. Then he made the playoffs on APs legs.
Sure... he's young. The sky is the limit for him. And for all I know behind closed doors he could look like the second coming of Joe Montana in practice. He says the right things. He has a solid work ethic. He's been associated with no scandals.
What he has behind him is a sense of hope. Every quarterback who's made it on an NFL team has footage that is impressive. Is it possible that he becomes another Gannon for us and tears it up a few years down the road? Sure. Is it probable that he is an NFL starter next year who is worthy of the arguments centered around his potential this offseason? Not at all. It's a stretch that he's a starter next year. It's a bigger stretch that he's a playoff contender next year. Even if he were to be handed the keys to the Minnesota Vikings.
Just because you have access to a Ferrari doesn't mean you can put anybody in the drivers seat and they would win a race against other professional drivers. The engine counts for a lot, but the driver has a job to do.
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