Strib: JJM needs support more than competition

[Zanary]

Souhan's absolutely right, though I want JJM to have that experienced pro to be a daily reminder of what long-practiced prep and professionalism looks like. In that regard, Wentz was pretty inconsistent and maybe lacks the leadership the team would get from Cousins, who was lauded for that exact quality.

I want the kid to know how high the bar is, in all of the rituals and habits, to be "THAT GUY". I want him looking over his shoulder for tips and support, but also with the knowledge that he's only keeping the job as long as he proves he's the best option on the roster.

I was VERY glad when Brez sounded more supportive than KOC did this week, because it seemed like he was in full political-speech mode: giving answers without taking any strong positions. I was pretty disappointed in that, especially with his "...teams fail young QBs..." statement on the record.

The kid shows moxie he haven't seen in...hell, since "Burt", maybe. He's got a lot to fix, but he also shows that he's wanting that next play, that next chance, and only seems to get angry, not defeated.

The terms is "Dawg", and the team just needs to train him right.

[StickierBuns]

I was VERY glad when Brez sounded more supportive than KOC did this week, because it seemed like he was in full political-speech mode: giving answers without taking any strong positions

The terms is "Dawg", and the team just needs to train him right.

But this is how KOC has to be: acting like he's truly all about making QB1 competitive. There'll be less hugs this offseason and more direct professionalism by KOC toward JJM....when he shows the improvement and continued mastery of the position and is undoubtedly QB1, then KOC will ramp it down a bit. The whole organization knows that JJM is by far the best option, mostly because he's shown those qualities. Just needs to stay healthy, contrary to what some of the tripe has been online from the fanboy aggregators, that is really their only and main concern. Not improvement, that is expected.

He's 100% a dawg. Biggest dawg this team has ever had outside of Joe Kapp.

[AGRforever]

I'm game with running Nein back out there. If he does the floppy crappie again we'll have a great draft pick. I just hope it doesn't cause KOC to get fired because I genuinely believe he is the coach to bring us to the promise land.

[StickierBuns]

CAN I GET AN AMEN

[purplefaithful]

Ha!

This all just goes to show how in-experienced us Vikings/fans are with rook QB's...

And the best thing they could do for JJM outside of a healthy Darrisaw??

Get a true #1 tail-back who can keep D's honest!

[StickierBuns]

Ha!

This all just goes to show how in-experienced us Vikings/fans are with rook QB's...

And the best thing they could do for JJM outside of a healthy Darrisaw??

Get a true #1 tail-back who can keep D's honest!

A little birdie told me that's coming...the plan was always for this year. But they also do like Mason.

[Zanary]

Ha!

This all just goes to show how in-experienced us Vikings/fans are with rook QB's...

And the best thing they could do for JJM outside of a healthy Darrisaw??

Get a true #1 tail-back who can keep D's honest!

I'd say a big upgrade at center is a similar priority.

[MaroonBells]

The Vikings won 9 games last year, .5 out of a playoff spot and just 2 behind the NFCN leader...who they should've beaten twice. If Jefferson wants to win a Superbowl, patience is what he's going to need, lol. Who are we signing this year at QB to come and win a Superbowl?? THIS year? Nobody. So why wouldn't you invest in McCarthy? I mean, IMO, there can be other nuances to the strategy but the main point should be exactly what Souhan lays out. I mean some seem to feel apparently that the Vikings won 9 games despite JJ, lol. 6-4 as a starter. How many game winning drives?

I don’t believe that at all. Like you say, Vikings won 9 games, and were a half game away from the playoffs, despite a level of QB play this team hasn’t seen in decades. I don’t know that we’ve EVER seen it that bad. 2200 yards, 18 TDs and 21 INTs is what we got from our QB room last year. Justin Jefferson caught two (TWO!) TDs on the year. How many games do we win if the QB play is just average? As bad as Geno Smith was last year on a terrible Vegas team, we’re still talking much better numbers than what we got, same is true for Bryce Young, Tua, Shough and Dart.

So sure, keep developing the kid. He showed some nice progress toward the end of the season, but we have to bring in another QB who can give us “baseline QB” play if JJ falters or gets hurt again.

[purplefaithful]

A little birdie told me that's coming...the plan was always for this year. But they also do like Mason.

as they should, I like Mason too...

But lets be honest with ourselves, he's closer to Leroy Hoard then Jamir Gibbs on the RB continuum

[StickierBuns]

Never forget

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/we...meback-win

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I don’t believe that at all. Like you say, Vikings won 9 games, and were a half game away from the playoffs, despite a level of QB play this team hasn’t seen in decades. I don’t know that we’ve EVER seen it that bad. 2200 yards, 18 TDs and 21 INTs is what we got from our QB room last year. Justin Jefferson caught two (TWO!) TDs on the year. How many games do we win if the QB play is just average? As bad as Geno Smith was last year on a terrible Vegas team, we’re still talking much better numbers than what we got, same is true for Bryce Young, Tua, Shough and Dart.

So sure, keep developing the kid. He showed some nice progress toward the end of the season, but we have to bring in another QB who can give us “baseline QB” play if JJ falters or gets hurt again.

I respect your opinion, MB. I like a lot of your takes. Just an agree to disagree here. You are talking stats vs. situational play and that's where JJ was playing well. He tended to group his bad play in just a few games, lol...and yeah it was rough.