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comet52 · (This post was last modified: 01-04-2026, 06:03 PM by comet52.)

He leads the league in turnovers. Seattle's D is either the best or 2nd best in the NFL however so they are doing well. I personally don't care what he does or doesn't do with Seattle. The Vikings had a plan to get a qb on a rookie scale and spent a lot trying to execute the plan. The fact it landed in the ditch this year doesn't really change the fact that after those shit-the-bed losses to the Lions and Rams last year, nobody was excited about running it back with Sam. Life moves on and hindsight is 20/20.

The bigger elephant in the room is JJM. He was erratic today and took a dumb penalty, his successes this year have been against really awful defenses and he ought to be in charge of a run-first offense featuring heavy/12 personnel, something Kevin O'Connell appears to hate with every fibre of his being. His ceiling looks like it might be NFL backup, or might take many years to get to if it's higher. And he can't stay healthy. So what do the Vikings do? Already there is a roster of potential retreads being talked about for qb. It's not a future that really excites me tbh.

mblack · (This post was last modified: 01-04-2026, 08:21 PM by mblack.)

(01-04-2026, 06:01 PM)comet52 Wrote: He leads the league in turnovers. Seattle's D is either the best or 2nd best in the NFL however so they are doing well. I personally don't care what he does or doesn't do with Seattle. The Vikings had a plan to get a qb on a rookie scale and spent a lot trying to execute the plan. The fact it landed in the ditch this year doesn't really change the fact that after those shit-the-bed losses to the Lions and Rams last year, nobody was excited about running it back with Sam. Life moves on and hindsight is 20/20.

The bigger elephant in the room is JJM. He was erratic today and took a dumb penalty, his successes this year have been against really awful defenses and he ought to be in charge of a run-first offense featuring heavy/12 personnel, something Kevin O'Connell appears to hate with every fibre of his being. His ceiling looks like it might be NFL backup, or might take many years to get to if it's higher. And he can't stay healthy. So what do the Vikings do? Already there is a roster of potential retreads being talked about for qb. It's not a future that really excites me tbh.

I think JJM’s development should be modeled like Purdy’s. Lean on the run and solid defense while he gradually develop his passing. Oh wait! That was the recipe in Michigan.

*JimmyinSD* · 01-04-2026, 10:22 PM

(01-04-2026, 08:20 PM)mblack Wrote: I think JJM’s development should be modeled like Purdy’s. Lean on the run and solid defense while he gradually develop his passing. Oh wait! That was the recipe in Michigan.

So keep the QB and can the coach?

mblack · 01-04-2026, 10:45 PM

(01-04-2026, 10:22 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: So keep the QB and can the coach?

Haha! Absolutely NOT!
We should review what our base offensive strategy is and help the QB. I hope we can course correct, evolve or adjust. I have been saying we really need to take a hard look at the offensive coordinator.
In case your forgot, I am an internet coach/GM and expert so I am right when I type. Big Grin

Mattyman · 01-05-2026, 02:57 AM

(01-04-2026, 08:20 PM)mblack Wrote: I think JJM’s development should be modeled like Purdy’s. Lean on the run and solid defense while he gradually develop his passing. Oh wait! That was the recipe in Michigan.

That's the recipe that won him 2 high school championship in 2 states, then he goes to Michigan and does the exact same thing......

KOC showed me he has. The same weaknessas Zimmer did.

MAD GAINZ · 01-05-2026, 09:36 AM

I think it's funny how fans and the media quickly forget that MN is trying to develop a franchise QB and have unreasonable expectations for what that looks like.

Montana Tom · 01-05-2026, 11:03 AM

(01-04-2026, 10:22 AM)Vikesrock Wrote: Probably not a popular opinion, but I disagree with this. I don't think Sammy winning the Super Bowl is a nightmare. I say good for the kid. At the time the Vikings made the decision to move on, they had what they felt was a promising rookie QB on a rookie deal. A plan to move forward utilizing the cap space provided by that. As luck would have it (See every other Vikings season ever), it didn't work out. I do believe without the injuries to McCarthy, the Vikings are a playoff team right now. We can 2nd guess the decision now as the season has played out and it has been disappointing to say the least, but I still say the right decision was made at the time with the information that was available.

To put it in perspective, Darnold had 1 productive season as a QB in the NFL. 6 disappointing seasons. He also laid an egg when the lights were the brightest. They also made an effort to keep Daniel Jones. Everything I have heard, they even offered him more money then Indy. He wanted to start.

This all may still work out for the better. McCarthy "looks" like he was improving. If next year he is a 4k passer this season will be but a memory.

No, the nightmare is Chicago or Green Bay winning the Super Bowl and having to listen to their insufferable fans for an entire off-season.

I happen to agree 100% with this opinion.
I don't believe that it is right to wish bad things on any player if he has success somewhere else.
I could not have said it any better.

hogjowlsjohnny · 01-05-2026, 12:03 PM

People say the seahawks didn't win because of Sammy, but they did in a way. Sammy had no turnovers. The playcalling had Sammy managing the game with a solid run game and calling pass plays that were fairly simple and safe. The gameplan minimized the risk of a turnover instead of chucking long, low probability passes deep down the field. The O-line also gave him the protection he didn't have in his Vikings failures.
It will be interesting to see how he does in the playoffs.

greediron · 01-05-2026, 12:14 PM

(01-04-2026, 10:32 AM)Zanary Wrote: I'm basically happy for Darnold, but having to be around the "12s" in general makes me hopeful that the Seahags fall very short in the playoffs. Given that I don't want either the Bears or the Pukers to win, either, it's hard to say who I'd want to win at this point:

No Seahags, no Bears, no Pukers...
...no to A-a-ron and the Steelers...
...no to Buffalo, they don't get to escape 0-4 misery ahead of us...
...no to Denver, because Payton can burn in hell...
...so, I'm hoping it's a Tampa-Houston superbowl, or something very similar.

As for the "we missed on Darnold", it's all been explained above: he made an offer, but we're determined to develop our guy. Sam had exactly 1 good season before this year, so spending a ton for him was iffy at best, anyway. Our team's issues this season, also listed above, include but are far beyond JJM.

Darnold had us all wincing on several occasions last year, but still got to benefit from team wins. Likewise, Seattle's defense had more to do with last night's victory than Sam did.

It still takes a team, regardless how much "sellers remorse" is being bandied about.

I am with Zanary, living in northwest, I can't stand seahawk fans. So I hope for their failure and can't root for Sammy. Hope he gets exposed again in the playoffs.

Guess I would tolerate Rams or 49ers vs Houston.

As to Darnold, no way we should have given him 100 mil. We had to rebuild the interior O-line and we took a shot at it. Kelly's concussions short circuited that, but at least we had a plan. Next year our o-line should be much improved with Darrisaw back fully next year. Finding a center and a potential replacement for O'Neill as he ages.

pattersaur · Yesterday, 11:30 AM

I'd be happy for Darnold if he won and it wouldn't bother me much in relation to the Vikings. So many of the QBs around the league are proving that it takes either a very strong team around them to lean on in order to succeed early, or 3-5 years and multiple coaches to figure things. I hope the Vikings don't give up on McCarthy too soon.

I agree with whoever said anyone but the Packers.