Quote: @StickyBun said:
I enjoy the NFL, so going to the NFL Redzone Channel is fun for me. I bought the NFL Sunday Ticket, so I'll watch the Viking's game but I'm very emotionally disconnected. I've just seen this same shit to often as a long time fan.
I'm almost at the point where whether they win or lose is inconsequential to me. I'm watching to see who are the players stepping up that we can build around and count on moving forward.
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
This was a 13 win team last year and the leadership was just put in place and havent had time to build it, but weve had this conversation already.
A clock is right twice a day.
Quote: @Bullazin said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
This was a 13 win team last year and the leadership was just put in place and havent had time to build it, but weve had this conversation already.
A clock is right twice a day.
Nobody here believed this was going to be a good year or a good team...
Quote: @ArizonaViking said:
@ Bullazin said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
This was a 13 win team last year and the leadership was just put in place and havent had time to build it, but weve had this conversation already.
A clock is right twice a day.
Nobody here believed this was going to be a good year or a good team...
Really? I think plenty did. And still do actually. We've dug ourselves in a hole and now have to climb out, but if the playoffs started tomorrow I'd take this year's team over last year's team.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Bullazin said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
This was a 13 win team last year and the leadership was just put in place and havent had time to build it, but weve had this conversation already.
A clock is right twice a day.
Nobody here believed this was going to be a good year or a good team...
Really? I think plenty did. And still do actually. We've dug ourselves in a hole and now have to climb out, but if the playoffs started tomorrow I'd take this year's team over last year's team.
Which would align with the theory that last year's team had a horseshoe up its ass. You can be better and still start 0-3....but still remains to be seen if they can turn it around this season. I think it has to start today. If you can't beat a pedestrian team like Carolina starting a rookie QB, then you have to come to some realizations as a Viking's fan as it pertains to this season.
Quote: @Bullazin said:
ill tell ya, didnt take long to get apathetic this year. i was in the stands last week and it was par for the course this year. timely mistakes, timely penalties. We had many chances to put that game away and grasped none.
Now im in “show me” mode. ill watch tomorrow with no expectations, no excitement. Obligatory really.
We are the 2nd best team in the North on paper and we are not far and away behind the Lions in talent. Theres still plenty of time to get right, but im strangely not feeling it.
Aside execution, Kwesi’s initial draft looks bad. I believ Cine, Booth, Asamoah and Ingram all have the talent to be starters and if 2 of them are not soon , the draft will be a bust. Davenport appears to be a mess, resigning Bradbury seems to be a reach. Harry , the great warrior looks old now and was resting snaps while the chargers hit 2 deep passes , one for a score.
I cant sign off ona tank, i think its FANtasy, but this season is fallong far short of expectations
Agree with most of what you say. Harry seems to have fallen off a bit. Don't understand why anyone gets heated over an injured player like Davenport though. Not sure why it seems to be such a radical idea to want to wait to see what he looks like when he's healthy before judging that move.
The Bradbury extension looks horrible right now, considering that his injury is the same one from late last year. Interesting and telling IMO that KOC went out of his way to explain how they did their due diligence on his back before giving him the deal. He knows that if Bradbury's out for an extended time that could be a source of real embarrassment for the FO.
This is a pretty good team. Better IMO than last year's team. I'm real curious to see what happens if someone simply takes the pistol they've been shooting themselves in the foot with out of their hands.
I still believe part of it is balancing out some of the luck from last year. A good team sure but not a contender. May get into the playoffs with a wildcard but some luck would be needed there too. There are huge holes on this squad that need to be filled no matter who is in charge
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Bullazin said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
We just aren’t that good this year. Even though many of us are long suffering fans, there’s been many years— including just last season tbh— where you could squint and maybe picture something magical. From everything the team has shown to this point, the ceiling seems to be mediocrity. Even as Vikings fans, that’s worse than what we’re accustomed to and it stinks.
Kirk is playing very well but it’s pretty clear this roster needs wholesale changes that should’ve been made years ago. The upcoming offseason might finally be the time the team starts that process.
You sure don't hear a lot from "the squad" on here who was pumping this team up all offseason and talking about certain players who don't even play being all pros while lambasting myself and a few others who could see what this team really was from the outset. I generously thought we were a .500 type roster, but even I overshot that one by the looks of things.
If the Vikings really wanted to fix this.. they'd end the Kwesi analytics experiment THIS OFFSEASON and hire a GM with actual personnel and scouting experience to oversee the next phase. I have zero faith in analytics as a barometer in identifying talent, the "competitive rebuild" or the allocation of salary dollars under this guy. It won't happen because the Wilfs are idiots at making football decisions, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen..
This was a 13 win team last year and the leadership was just put in place and havent had time to build it, but weve had this conversation already.
A clock is right twice a day.
Nobody here believed this was going to be a good year or a good team...
Really? I think plenty did. And still do actually. We've dug ourselves in a hole and now have to climb out, but if the playoffs started tomorrow I'd take this year's team over last year's team.
Which would align with the theory that last year's team had a horseshoe up its ass. You can be better and still start 0-3....but still remains to be seen if they can turn it around this season. I think it has to start today. If you can't beat a pedestrian team like Carolina starting a rookie QB, then you have to come to some realizations as a Viking's fan as it pertains to this season.
LOL. Yes, they did have a horseshoe. It was an 11-ish win team that won a couple more than they should have. So far this year's team, though it might be slightly more talented, has removed the horseshoe and presented to their opponents with a card, cake and a couple clowns.
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