After 47 years my negativity has reached an all-time high so I won't add any more to this thread.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
You're so twisted by negativity you can't even see straight. Read again what I said about Cine...in several posts. Feel free to repost here. Go ahead. And if you still think it's blowing smoke up up people's asses then your judgement and perception of reality is so far out of whack, you should probably sit down before you fall over.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
Oh the great Rick Spielman and his outstanding drafts.
2019
1st round Garrett Bradbury
2nd round Irv Smith Jr
4th round Dru Samia
5th round Cameron Smith
6th round Armon Watts
2018
1st round Mike Hughes
4th round Jalyn Holmes
6th round Colby Gossett
2017
3rd round Pat Elfein
4th round Ben Gedeon
I think the picture is pretty clear that the draft is a crap shoot at best and the almighty Rick Spielman didn't do shit to help the team win a Super Bowl. In fact other than his obsession of having 10 picks every draft and his love of players drafted in the 7th round he wasn't worth a shit and probably why he hasn't gotten another job. Kwesi may take awhile to build this team but he certainly isn't going to be any worse than Spielman.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
You're so twisted by negativity you can't even see straight. Read again what I said about Cine...in several posts. Feel free to repost here. Go ahead. And if you still think it's blowing smoke up up people's asses then your judgement and perception of reality is so far out of whack, you should probably sit down before you fall over.
Twisted by negativity!? Lol. I give an honest assessment and reasoning as to why I think we are in for a down year and people lose their minds. You on the other hand are trying to sell Cine (if he can tackle) and Asamoah as stars. You are entitled to your opinions but understand you look like a soap boxer routinely blowing purple smoke up people's asses.
Tell you what Maroon, I'll buy you a steak dinner when Cine and Asamoah become pro bowlers. If not, you can buy me one. Deal?
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
You're so twisted by negativity you can't even see straight. Read again what I said about Cine...in several posts. Feel free to repost here. Go ahead. And if you still think it's blowing smoke up up people's asses then your judgement and perception of reality is so far out of whack, you should probably sit down before you fall over.
Twisted by negativity!? Lol. I give an honest assessment and reasoning as to why I think we are in for a down year and people lose their minds. You on the other hand are trying to sell Cine (if he can tackle) and Asamoah as stars. You are entitled to your opinions but understand you look like a soap boxer routinely blowing purple smoke up people's asses.
Tell you what Maroon, I'll buy you a steak dinner when Cine and Asamoah become pro bowlers. If not, you can buy me one. Deal?
Look, Cine is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. As you know, but just continue to ignore, is that Cine has had good plays and bad. I mention both, because i don't have an agenda. You mention only the bad. Given that fact, you shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
You're so twisted by negativity you can't even see straight. Read again what I said about Cine...in several posts. Feel free to repost here. Go ahead. And if you still think it's blowing smoke up up people's asses then your judgement and perception of reality is so far out of whack, you should probably sit down before you fall over.
Twisted by negativity!? Lol. I give an honest assessment and reasoning as to why I think we are in for a down year and people lose their minds. You on the other hand are trying to sell Cine (if he can tackle) and Asamoah as stars. You are entitled to your opinions but understand you look like a soap boxer routinely blowing purple smoke up people's asses.
Tell you what Maroon, I'll buy you a steak dinner when Cine and Asamoah become pro bowlers. If not, you can buy me one. Deal?
Look, Cine is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. As you know, but just continue to ignore, is that Cine has had good plays and bad. I mention both, because i don't have an agenda. You mention only the bad. Given that fact, you shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.
An agenda!? You try to sell everyone in EVERY post that this is a star studded team that is making all the right moves towards the future and will be a Super bowl contender this year and years to come. I wholeheartedly disagree with you and the direction of this franchise under current management.
As far as Cine goes, he's made a few plays but he's also missed some big ones and is still running 4th on the depth chart. You think the guys got star potential, well put your money where your mouth is, take the bet, or stop blowing smoke up our asses. Cine and Asamoah, who you also think is a future super star. If they both become pro bowl players (low bar) for the Vikings by the end of their rookie deals (potential 5th year for Cine), then I'll happily send a $50 dollar gift card to you for a steak dinner. They don't, then you send me one. Deal?
Quote: @Greylock said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Careful now Sticky, you don't want to be accused of being negative. Nobody wants to hear it unless you think this team is winning 12 games and going to the Super Bowl...
Reality is this is a paper thin roster lacking depth almost everywhere. Secondary, offensive line, defensive line, and arguments could be made for other positional groups..
Supa, you wanna know the difference? Like most of us, Sticky calls out both the positives and the negatives as he sees them. Whether it's about ownership, the GM, the QB, the coaching staff, the draft....when nearly 100% of your posts are negative, it's hard to take you seriously. You come across as a crank with an agenda.
This from the guy who just tried to sell us Lewis Cine as having super star potential in another post. You are literally the king of blowing smoke up everyone's asses on any and every player, roster move, and front office member in the organization. You aren't objectionable, you're a homer...so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt. My agenda is I want to see this team get to a Super Bowl and think they've done everything ass backwards since the day they let Rick Spielman walk out the door. Kwesi hasn't shown anything in the way of roster moves or identifying talent. That's not an agenda, that's just fact...and his shortcomings in those areas are WHY we are lacking roster depth and continuing to tinker by signing XFL players and street free agents.
Oh the great Rick Spielman and his outstanding drafts.
2019
1st round Garrett Bradbury
2nd round Irv Smith Jr
4th round Dru Samia
5th round Cameron Smith
6th round Armon Watts
2018
1st round Mike Hughes
4th round Jalyn Holmes
6th round Colby Gossett
2017
3rd round Pat Elfein
4th round Ben Gedeon
I think the picture is pretty clear that the draft is a crap shoot at best and the almighty Rick Spielman didn't do shit to help the team win a Super Bowl. In fact other than his obsession of having 10 picks every draft and his love of players drafted in the 7th round he wasn't worth a shit and probably why he hasn't gotten another job. Kwesi may take awhile to build this team but he certainly isn't going to be any worse than Spielman.
This team was a perennial contender under Spielman, won several division titles, and we just won 13 games on the backs of the talent assembled by Rick Spielman. You can cherry pick any draft and nobody is perfect drafting, but the two young cornerstones of this franchise were selected by Rick...in the 20's. I didn't always agree with Rick and was not a fan of the 10 draft pick/gathering late round picks philosophy but overall he did his job. He made a lot of good trades and was always acquiring future draft capital. I'd take Rick Spielman over an analytics buff with zero experience every day of the week and twice on Sundays (pun intended).
Quote: @Greylock said:
Oh the great Rick Spielman and his outstanding drafts.
2019
1st round Garrett Bradbury
2nd round Irv Smith Jr
4th round Dru Samia
5th round Cameron Smith
6th round Armon Watts
2018
1st round Mike Hughes
4th round Jalyn Holmes
6th round Colby Gossett
2017
3rd round Pat Elfein
4th round Ben Gedeon
I think the picture is pretty clear that the draft is a crap shoot at best and the almighty Rick Spielman didn't do shit to help the team win a Super Bowl. In fact other than his obsession of having 10 picks every draft and his love of players drafted in the 7th round he wasn't worth a shit and probably why he hasn't gotten another job. Kwesi may take awhile to build this team but he certainly isn't going to be any worse than Spielman.
So let's look at what you conveniently omitted - 2017 he traded up to get Dalvin, 2018 got our bookend OT O'Neil in the 2nd, a solid TE Conklin in the 5th and one of the best kickers in the NFL in Carlson in the 6th and in 2019 our current starting RB in the 3rd. Followed that up in 2020 the 2nd top player in league in JJ and Osborne in the 5th and 2021 picked up one of best LTs in the league in Darrisaw and our starting safety in the 4th. And yes this team is in much worse hands with Kwesi.
Quote: @JR44 said:
@ Greylock said:
Oh the great Rick Spielman and his outstanding drafts.
2019
1st round Garrett Bradbury
2nd round Irv Smith Jr
4th round Dru Samia
5th round Cameron Smith
6th round Armon Watts
2018
1st round Mike Hughes
4th round Jalyn Holmes
6th round Colby Gossett
2017
3rd round Pat Elfein
4th round Ben Gedeon
I think the picture is pretty clear that the draft is a crap shoot at best and the almighty Rick Spielman didn't do shit to help the team win a Super Bowl. In fact other than his obsession of having 10 picks every draft and his love of players drafted in the 7th round he wasn't worth a shit and probably why he hasn't gotten another job. Kwesi may take awhile to build this team but he certainly isn't going to be any worse than Spielman.
So let's look at what you conveniently omitted - 2017 he traded up to get Dalvin, 2018 got our bookend OT O'Neil in the 2nd, a solid TE Conklin in the 5th and one of the best kickers in the NFL in Carlson in the 6th and in 2019 our current starting RB in the 3rd. Followed that up in 2020 the 2nd top player in league in JJ and Osborne in the 5th and 2021 picked up one of best LTs in the league in Darrisaw and our starting safety in the 4th. And yes this team is in much worse hands with Kwesi.
Oh its another Kwesi hater from another Viking forum to jump into the Kwesi sucks thread. Rick had his share of hits but he also had plenty of misses, guess thats why he has been fired twice and still out of a job running a team. If this was still Ricks team we would have a bunch of overpaid veterans still bloating the salary cap. At least Kwesi saw the flaws and starting cutting the deadwood from the team but he isnt going to be able to replace the talent in two drafts. Let the preseason playout before saying every decision he made this offseason was clueless.
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