Quote: @"Bolstad79" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.
I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers. Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.
And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season.
how does AD fit better in AZ than Murray though? AZs offense is similar to ours in that it requires the RB to be a receiver and pass blocker as much or more than a ball carrier. I cant really think of many teams that really play smash mouth football anymore. pretty limited for AD out there.
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.
I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers. Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.
And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season.
how does AD fit better in AZ than Murray though? AZs offense is similar to ours in that it requires the RB to be a receiver and pass blocker as much or more than a ball carrier. I cant really think of many teams that really play smash mouth football anymore. pretty limited for AD out there.
They will not be winning with that style of play without Johnson, and Murray wouldn't help that. Adrian might force defenses to respect the run and take pressure of Palmer.
Arizona has a defense, they won't get down as fast as the Saints and be forced to throw the ball. I'm also still glad they pulled him after those first 2 runs, I don't get why Payton did that.
lets trade the whole team!!!
Quote: @"Bolstad79" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Bolstad79" said:
No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.
I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers. Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.
And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season.
how does AD fit better in AZ than Murray though? AZs offense is similar to ours in that it requires the RB to be a receiver and pass blocker as much or more than a ball carrier. I cant really think of many teams that really play smash mouth football anymore. pretty limited for AD out there.
They will not be winning with that style of play without Johnson, and Murray wouldn't help that. Adrian might force defenses to respect the run and take pressure of Palmer.
Arizona has a defense, they won't get down as fast as the Saints and be forced to throw the ball. I'm also still glad they pulled him after those first 2 runs, I don't get why Payton did that.
Compare AD's run stats to Murray's over the last 2 years. Add to that the age factor, versatility, ability to protect an aging QB, and there's a very good reason to take Murray over Peterson. Not that it will happen.
He is RB depth, nothing more.
Quote: @"Vikes45" said:
He is RB depth, nothing more.
he was slated to be our starter until we lucked into Cook. probably not to many teams with the RB depth that we have. maybe the Saints.
Quote: @"VikingOracle" said:
I would say he is a step above "a guy" -- rushed for 1,066 yards and six touchdowns in 2015 and 788 yards and 12 touchdowns last year. He also caught a combined 74 passes for 496 yards over those seasons.
Using facts isn't fsir, VO. Sticky is clearly gunning for Arif's job as a Hot Take specialist. Let's not muddy the waters for him.
I think it would be a big mistake for us to trade Murray. I don't think the Monday night opener is any sort of barometer of what we can expect from Murray, not just with regard to his fumble but also with the amount of carries he will be getting. He's got a place on this team. I think there's no doubt we need our 3 RBs. Injuries make it so.
Agree with all the "no trade" votes, but another point / question: COULD we trade him? I honestly cannot remember a case of someone signing a UFA (a significant one) and trading him within the first season. I know, Seahawks traded Brock to us, but he was a lower-level FA and they probably told him he was either getting traded or cut.
I've assumed that most veterans who go somewhere as a UFA have contract clauses that give them control over being traded. These guys picked their team in free agency, so they wouldn't want to lose their choice and just get shipped to Cleveland. If this is true, either Murray or Peterson would have to approve any trade.
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Vikes45" said:
He is RB depth, nothing more.
he was slated to be our starter until we lucked into Cook. probably not to many teams with the RB depth that we have. maybe the Saints.
We also wanted Lacy before we wanted Murray, and Oakland let him walk for very little.
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